That's what @sift666 said too. They hadn't really been on my radar before, so I was able to judge both bands on just their new albums. But you both make a valid point.

Although I was enjoying some of the new music I found tonight, when I played the two Shihad tracks that @sift666 and @kiwiscanfly linked to, it reminded me of the "thing" that I'm looking for, that I haven't found yet. Though I have found lots of other good music along the way.