Las Vegas shooting, at least 20 dead and 100 wounded - who was the shooter? Update: 58 dead.
Not unexpected, another terrorist attack. This time in sort of a new venue - a country music festival. The first thought that ran through my mind was - this is not some "right wing" extremist. Why would he attack a country festival?
Now, let's do some low level detective work
Reading this ZeroHedge article, police is trying to locate a female companion called Marilou Danley.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-02/shooter-las-vegas-concert-kills-20-injures-over-100
Who is she?
"The mother and grandmother, whose Facebook page is full of photos with family members and trips overseas, was described by police as a 4’11” Asian woman. She was described as a “companion” of the still unidentified shooter."
The killer was shot dead by the police, but they don't want to come out with his name at this point in the investigation. At least 20 dead and over 100 wounded - this is some serious terrorist attack.
Now, I don't think a "gun loving right wing extremist" would shoot up a country festival. I think the odds of it being a leftist extremist or a muslim is very high. Sure, it could be a straight up nutcase, but they rarely do these sort of things. They are more likely to be serial killers. These mass murderers are almost always politically motivated.
I will update as soon as I find more info
Update I
The attacker is rumored to be Stephen Paddock. Known to law enforcement, NBC News’ Pete Williams reports. But details of those run-ins were not immediately available. Public records do not show any criminal convictions for Paddock in Nevada. Mesquite Police told CBS News that he had no run-ins with him. They said he lived in a retirement community, is a white male and wasn’t a military veteran.
Upate II
At least 50 killed and Stephen Paddock is confirmed to be the now dead shooter.
This is now the worst mass shooting in modern US history
Update III
So Stephen Paddock is a 60 something white male. No profiles on social medias, no comments (as far as I know) in newspapers or blogs. He owned weapons, went hunting and had an airplane certificate. His brother Erick says that he didn't have any political or religious beliefs, and that he must have "snapped".
This certainly substantiates theories of false flag or manchurian candidate. Or at least gives those theories a little bit more likelihood.
I agree that it sounds very strange. Who snaps like that? There's always some kind of hatred, message, political belief, religious, racial. Something! People who suddenly go psychotic usually aren't capable of pulling of something like this. They get too disoriantated and confused. Sure, it could be the case..
Update IV
58 killed. 406 wounded. How on earth could one man do this? He had 10 weapons stored in his hotel room. Anyone who knows how people who are psychotic (snapped) act, know that they are not capable of doing something like this. Yes, they can attack you, shoot at you, stab you with a knife, but not sit calmly and shoot at 500 people. No way. I've been working with psychotic people for many years. This guy did this well knowingly, unless he was a freaking manchurian candidate.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-mandalay-bay-resort-casino/
I don't like where this story is going. At this point, looks like he'll either be called a nutjob or a white supremacist...As usual, he was 'known' to police. On the other hand, I'm quite amazed at the huge number of victims...for just one shooter!?
Yeah. Incredible. 50 killed and almost 500?? wounded. How is that even possible? Even in these nightclub and concert terrorattacks (paris and Orlando) where there were multipple terrorists with machine guns INSIDE a building they were not able to kill and wound this many people.
Manchurian candidate is what I'm thinking of too. Years ago I did some research and wrote about the MK-Ultra program. If some random old guy can do so much harm why do the US even bother sending thousands of troops abroad... this has false flag written all over it..
Yeah..just clone that guy into a 100, and he could wipe out IS himself.
Omg 20 people dead? Never happened this much massive shooting before in the last few years. Why it is always happening more in america? Why these terrorists are targeted that beautiful country and beautiful people? I feel so bad for this. My friends are family mates living there since so long years. I hope all of them are safe along with local families. May god bless this country.
UK Ariana Grande concert? Paris concert attack? It is a trend.
A bad trend that's killing people. :-(
Saying 50 dead now. :(
Hope your family is safe @stefen !
Yes, it's horrible. Seems like this dude was a lone wolf who just went insane. I don't know.. could be something worse too.
Horrifying news to wake up to, and to watch the body count rise, initially 2, then 20, now +50 ....
... of course everyone is shocked, and the USA will be for a few days, but then life will go back to normal and no steps will be taken to reduce access by bad people to automatic rounds or guns, etc. Sick of it, the massacres and sick of the rhetoric and the lack of progress.
And then of course there will be a-holes stating it is a conspiracy theory, like the ones claiming to parents of dead children in Sandy Hook that the parents were part of the conspiracy.
Another bad day for humanity.
Thanks for your comment. I don't agree with your anti-gun argument. Criminals will be able to get a hold of guns if its legal or illegal. Most guns who kill people are not legally registered weapons. If this guy wanted to get an AK47 he could have gotten that illegally. In Europe incidents of terrorist-attacks are increasing, and no one is allowed to wear even a knife on the streets of Europe. Still criminals kill each other with assault rifles - even in Scandinavia. Bank robbers hold up banks with grenades and machine guns. They don't give a shit if its illegal or not - they use illegal weapons regardless.
In some instances, allowing the general population to wear weapons could have hindered many terrorist attacks. 6 years ago Anders Breivik killed 92 young people on an Island in Norway. If just some of the organizers had a gun they could have stopped him from killing that many people.
I am not sure what your argument is so I can not disagree or agree.
Some things to consider:
Look at the examples from Australia which passed laws twenty years ago and has experienced zero mass shooting since then.
Ok this is a comedy show, but with a serious bent. They study what happens when "good guys" are also given easy access to guns.
Just because bad people will always do bad things does not mean there should not be policies in place to help lower them.
I have been to the US, many times and have shot guns and gone fishing there. It was much, much, much tougher to get a fishing license there than it is to buy a gun. That does not make sense to me.
No that's OK. There should be licenses and criteria to buy a gun. But people should be allowed to defend themselves.
Take for instance Sweden. Their country is flooding with criminals from all over the world. Rape rates are skyrocketing, murders, violence. And the police has resigned. In many areas you are left on your own. But you're not allowed to own a weapon. Where is the decency in that?
My argument is that bad people get guns either way. In Europe we are not allowed to own guns. You can own hunting rifles or shotgun, but no self defense weapons. We are being flooded with terrorists, ISIS-members and criminals. And we are not allowed to protect ourselves. People are being chopped to pieces on subway stations and trains. And no one has a gun to help or protect. Not even the freaking police in many countries - although that is changing these days.
In Switzerland we all have military grade guns at home ... and gun violence is rare. That could be the reason.
It most definitely could.
Reports now of 50+ deceased and 200+ injured.
Good vibes headed to the victims and their families.
The original story was "2 dead and 24 injured", then it became "20 dead and 100 injured" and now its up to "50 dead and 200 injured". How could anyone mistake 50 dead and 200 injured for only 2 dead and 20 injured.
Come on, the only victim here is the truth.
Chaos in a situation like that. More than 200 injured. Some of the injured will die within minutes and hours because of the severe wounds. And it takes time to count everyone. But mostly the fact that people who were only injured an hour ago is now dead.
Which at the moment, can't be proven. Trampling deaths can cause many more deaths that just gunshots wounds.
Hey, I'm a tinfoilist myself. It must be tempered with evidence however. I'm not saying you're wrong, only that more details need be available.
That is to bad, thanks for sharing.
Youre welcome!
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It's no surprise that there would be another FALSE FLAG shooting event in the US after what the bankers' thugs did to the people of Catalonia. Do you think the cowardly police thugs would have been so bold in Spain if people there had guns.
Listen to the audio in the clip. Did you hear any cries of agony from the "wounded"? No
Look at the face of the cop giving the statement. Lying
Were people really running for their lives. No
The police didn't want the public coming to the scene where like all of the prior fake mass shootings in the US there will be no dead bodies, no wounded or blood.
Don't be fooled. The CIA is a production company and the media will only interview the crisis actors they train and pay.
And who stands to gain from such an event???
After all "events" like this, fund raising organizations are set up to "help the victims". These "charities" rake in millions of dollars which end up going to politicians, police, crisis actors, etc.
It will also be used to further the anti-gun narrative needed by the criminal bankers who have hijacked most of the governments around the world. Nancy Pelosi has already set up a "Town Hall" meeting.
That sounds a bit farfetched to such a degree, there would have to be too many people involved in a conspiracy that large to make it work. According to the math from this researcher there would have to be less than 1000 people involved in order to keep a conspiracy secret for at least 10 years:
https://phys.org/news/2016-01-equation-large-scale-conspiracies-quickly-reveal.html
What does strike me a bit odd is that from the news reports, at least the ones I have seen so far, the guy was a "normal" guy with no suspicious traits. Why would a "normal" guy flip-out like that? The suspicious bit is that he was dead (reported suicide) when the police finally got to him. That certainly leaves room for plenty of conspiracy theories.
The only people that really need to be involved are the media, the police and the crisis actors all of which are already on the payroll.
Check out HighImpactFlix either here on Steemit or YouTube. He has numerous videos that show the media setting up fake photo shoots to appear to be real events.
I realize how hard it is to believe but that in itself it is called Cognitive dissonance and is also required to make these events work.
Like I said the original media reports were two dead and 24 wounded and I don't care how chaotic of a scene it was, 58 dead and over four hundred wounded would be hard to confuse with just 26 total casualties.
Look closely at the Getty pictures on the web. You will start to see.
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAsLQ5x.img?h=600&w=924&m=6&q=60&u=t&o=f&l=f
Notice the arm of the vendor at the pizza place on the very far left edge of the photo. These people were just in a hurry to get to the show.
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAsM1WO.img?h=600&w=924&m=6&q=60&u=t&o=f&l=f&x=1620&y=895
If there was an active shooter do you think the cops would let those civilians wonder about texting and talking on their cell phones?
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAsLSry.img?h=600&w=924&m=6&q=60&u=t&o=f&l=f
The girl in the sweater appears to be still holding her beer.
The main stream media which has a history of lying has already started defending their truth against social media hoaxes.
Yeah, sorry, I don't buy it in this case. Those scenes are always confusing and it would be perfectly normal that they would not know the final count until it was all over. Plus there were thousands of the people at the concert. So, you go on believing what you want, I will go on my way, I believe this was a tragedy and not something that was staged.
Agreed and best wishes.
Staged event and false flag are two differing things. You are describing a staged event.
A false flag is a staged event.
That can be true. Until the implications are realized, there is no evidence to a false flag beyond speculation.
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