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RE: Steem-Engine Tribes: A Revolutionary Idea

in #palnet7 years ago

I am right now reading this on #palnet and seeing rewards in PALcoins, which is cool. The only thing is, I'm involved in different groups. It would be rather a pain to log into front end after front end after front end for all of them, you know?
I thought we were supposed to get "groups" with HF20 but that didn't happen. We haven't gotten SMTs yet, either, so I think all that development derailed and this is why we're getting the homebrewed solutions like different front ends and S-E and so on, which is awesome. I just kinda wish it was simpler, I guess. Like, when I'm interacting with a PAL post, I'm giving/receiving PALcoins; when I interact with a #weedcash post, I can give/receive WEED tokens, and so on, just no matter what front end I'm currently logged into. Like right now on PAL I am only seeing PAL-related posts; to see other posts I have to go log into Steemit or SteemPeak or Partiko or whatever. I just kinda wish it was related to the tag rather than a front end, I guess - or maybe it already is, and I just haven't figured it all out yet. XD

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The front-end uses the tags to identify which posts to show, but everything still happens at blockchain level.

So you can use Steempeak or your front-end of choice and interact with everything just using tags instead of using the various front-ends - you just won't be able to see the pending PAL rewards.

I just kinda wish it was related to the tag rather than a front end, I guess - or maybe it already is, and I just haven't figured it all out yet. XD

Exactly this. I posted on your comment using Steempeak, but if I get enough votes from PAL-staked users it will show rewards on Palnet.io

There is an option that SCOT iterations can use to only reward activity that happens through their own front-end, but it's not one that any of them are actually using yet.

Can you clarify this @josephsavage? It's my understanding that to earn PAL from votes on your content, those votes need to be cast within palnet.io.

If it has #palnet as a tag, it can earn PAL. The votes need to be backed by staked PAL, and not just SP. Comments usually only have the first tag from a post, though.

No I mean to earn pal on your content the incoming votes need to be made on palnet.io. You can post your content via any front end, as long as you use the palnet tag, but to earn PAL the vote needs to be made on palnet. Well, at least that's my understanding.

That is incorrect. Palnet.io uses the Steem blockchain, and the front-end a vote was placed from is not recorded at the time of placing a vote.

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The SCOTbot compares vote information with interactions with the smart contract and your votes count as long as you had PAL staked in the account before the vote was placed.

By the way, what's the case with comments where palnet wasn't the first tag? Can they earn PAL, or is that restricted to comments on posts where palnet was the first tag?

My understanding is that SCOTbot can only identify them as palnet comments if palnet was the first tag.

It's possible that it also uses app identity so commenting from palnet instead of other interfaces would still include them. I haven't tested that extensively.

Since you're using steempeak, you can always click this little icon on a comment to 'zoom in' and see what tags it has.
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At that point you'll be in the comment link, so changing peak to d in the url will let you see the blockchain info, including what app the comment was posted from.

Hey @josephsavage thanks for all your clarifying posts! They help a lot.

Oh, that's awesome! That means I can continue to use steempeak, as I really dislike the steemit-clone interface.

AHA, I see. Thanks for the clarity!

Yeah, I agree with this. Thankfully steempeak are working on communities, and it will all be accessible via the steempeak front end. Maybe @jarvie can elaborate if he sees this comment.

Yeah it's almost like a straight up splintering of steem which is amusing ... cuz Splinterlands... anyway @josephsavage is correct you only need to use palnet to see reward values. You can keep using steempeak and just use the tags for your post.
Also steempeak can easily develop the ability to display reward values and more.

That would be awesome if Steempeak identified the relevant tags for each post/comment and showed all pending rewards and not just STU.