Killing discourse: The Eye of God

in #philosophy6 years ago

What would have happened if in 1986, Diega Maradonna's infamous handball to score against England in the World Cup had been picked up by the referee, would the world be better?


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I am not a football fan but, I really enjoy watching the World Cup. To me, it is much more like the Olympics, a bit more pure as players are in teams battling for a common goal but, they do not normally play together, at least professionally and are often even rivals. But, this year, I am somewhat disappointed by the inclusion of the on-field review system.

The Eye of God.

 
Yes, it is more precise and means that there are a lot less mistakes that happen as in high-definition, superslow motion, much better decisions can be made that at speed however, it takes away a great deal of the emotional element. It takes away the close calls, the wrong calls, the mistakes and, the history altering events like The hand of God moment pictured. It takes away 30 years of discussion, articles, documentaries and, it takes away the discourse between rivals.

I remember watching the 2006 world cup match between Australia and Italy at a full bar and in the dying minutes, Australia was denied advancement because of a penalty shot awarded to Italy on what in replay, was clearly a dive. After the game, an Italian friend in the same bar said, we will take the win of course but, Australia was robbed.

Thems the breaks.

 
This is the problem I have with the reviews, it takes away the randomness of the referee which many will consider a good thing, when it works in their favor but, it takes away the conversation between my friend and I too. The jokes and the teasing. It takes away the controversy and, it undermines having the referee on the field of play at all. A few more cameras, perhaps some wearable sensors and an AI whistle can do the job better and with a lot more consistency than any human.

Precision is an excellent trait but passion and creativity is something that being precise often destroys. Having the somewhat lottery effect and 'on the day' brings with the game a lot of conversation and makes it much more edge of the seat, much more enjoyable to watch. This is sport after all, no one should be getting killed over it.

Now, imagine a world where everything you do is filmed, on camera, replayable and able to be spread virally, how do people act and talk? Well, we live in a world like that now and it is only getting worse. Introduce the continual encroachment on privacy and soon, The Eye of God will make sure none of us are having any discussions at all for fear of retribution.

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Lessons from replay

 
I have been out kicking a football around with my daughter the last few months and she really enjoys it. This World Cup is the first time she has ever watched any TV and even though she doesn't stare, she doesn't mind sitting for a few minutes with me before running off to kick the ball with the dog. Watching the games has introduced a new aspect to her game she has never had before. Falling. Yes, now she is a diver. She runs around kicking the ball and then randomly falls over and in Finnish or English shouts Fall!

Diving is one of the worst aspects of the game in my opinion as there is incentive to cheat as it is often rewarded with a free kick. For people who can do so much with a ball and their feet so quickly, you'd think they would have more luck staying upright. But, if you take it from my daughter's perspective, there is a great deal of it and it is shown in replay and slow motion over and over, of course she is going to think it important.

Since it is there though

 
I heard (from my wife so take it with a grain of salt) that the players have at least 32 official cameras on them while on the field which means essentially, everything is recorded at least once. I am not for having every tackle reviewed but, to reduce the impact and incentive of diving, the entire game should be reviewed by the referees post-match and, yellow cards issued to those they consider as taking dives. On the field of play they might get away with it but, they will still be punished and potentially miss games because of it.

If they are going to pack the cameras onto the field, rather than let it delay the game as often as it does (important decisions like penalty kicks can be reviewed) control the on-field behaviors off-field. Create a cost to being a bad actor and make those on the field adjust so as not to be penalized later.

One of the best parts of the game is seeing a player struggle through a few opponents , take a few knocks, a tug on the shirt and still manage to get a shot off and curl it into a corner of the net. Currently, they play for the foul instead of the glory, they fall to the ground when they could have stood a hero.

For the final

 
Today against Peru is likely the last game Australia plays in this World Cup and what I am hoping for more than just a win, is a hard-fought competition between players who are looking to play their best, and the best one can do is not to fall and listen for a whistle and a favor. That way, win or lose, good or bad call, there is nothing else that could have been done.

We live in a world that seems to continually reward cheating, corner-cutting and reduction of responsibility when the incentives should be aligned to be quite the opposite. It is a world of middlemen and referees because players of the game just can't be trusted to have integrity. People are people and will always optimize their actions to maximize their returns, no matter who else is on the field. Maybe we should all have 32 cameras on us.

Taraz
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I was also afraid that the VAR would take away looks of discussion after the game. Bit o boy, I was wrong! Now, we even more have discussion about it! The VAR may only interfere when according to the team (yep they are with 4 referees in there) do consider it a clear and obvious error from the ref on the pitch!
So in stead of discussing the error of the ref, we are now discussing the error of the VAR team :)
Also it is a relief to see that the catch and wrestling games are less in the penalty area just before a corner of free kick!
Cheers,
Peter

As an English guy, I'm happy for some VAR action! In 1966 perhaps that goal should never have been, but I can think of 2/3 shockers since then to halt 'our' progression.

And is it me or is there now seemingly more wrestling going on than there was prior to VAR?!

The shockers are all part of the fun ;)

I'm not a huge football fan, neither am I a fan of nation states, but I love this first couple of weeks of the world cup where I can just lounge in front of the T.V. and watch 5 hours of football a day.

Personally I think VAR adds a layer of clarity and so far it hasn't caused too many delays... the problem is that it's not being used consistently. England should have had at least one penalty for 'hugging' in their first match.

As to Diego and the hand of god moment - it's obviously disgraceful behavior, but not quite as disgraceful as Thatcher invading the Falklands a couple of years earlier (as some would see it) to boost her chances of getting re-elected (and succeeding).

I don't think we need more surveillance of 'the people', more surveillance of state actors, however, might make the world a better place!

... the problem is that it's not being used consistently. England should have had at least one penalty for 'hugging' in their first match.

I'll agree with that! Are they monitoring constantly then for corners and free kicks? There were some obvious elbow and wrestling moves going on in England's last game. More than I can remember at any World Cup.

It looked as if the managers spoke at the start of the second half of the England - Panama game. Perhaps he was letting Southgate know he'd told the players to quit messing about and play some football? :)

Thankfully we didn't need any help in that particular game. Maybe he did, there's a lot of 'antic's going on this year, generally very enjoyable so far though!

Very enjoyable. I'm having trouble leaving the pub!

At midday? You might be in trouble there!

It is not the delays as much as the loss of randomness. Too much clarity takes out the magic of some things. What they should be showing more of in slow-mo is the footwork.

Hi taraz. I am a rugby referee and was destined for professional levels until I was robbed with my back injury. The system was bought in to make sure the right decision wins at the end of the day. There are fortunes to be made and lost and careers hinging on decisions. It is crucial to get right and technology has allowed this to happen. I understand it has taken away conversation pieces from mates but it stops cheating. referees never had the respect of the players because they weren't professional and could hoodwink them, not any more.

that is fine so, introduce the post-match check also to stop the thing that hurts the game the most for fans (in my opinion).. diving. And yes, there are fortunes to be made and lost .. while cancer researchers go begging. Again my opinion but, there is way, way too much money surrounding sport and entertainment these days.

Way too much money I agree. The importance is outweighed as it is just sport ,it is not life and death. the amount of money these guys get is totally absurd. No one is worth $300 000 a week.

Maybe we should all have 32 cameras on us.

...That's what wives are for!
😂

Have you seen me? Mine is blind.

oh, never mistake the need of eyes, for wives to still see everything!

...they....just....know....

is something that is being implemented but leaves many doubts, it is not really known what is the positive and negative of the VAR, many situations have happened in this world that one wonders what has happened, whether it really works or not, yesterday I saw the match between Portugal and Iran and Cristiano Ronaldo had to be ejected by an elbow in the face of an Irani player, but it was simply yellow. Just as in this case we see many situations that have happened that have been left only in the intention and not in the action, when placing this type of technology it must be something that is really seen without so many criticisms by the majority of players and amateurs

I think it takes out a lot of the excitement. Ronaldo should have been red carded for being a tosser ;)

People need to understand that human error is what makes the game exciting. I think scrapping the system is best for football

Certainly the VAR has just downgraded the beauty of the game. Last nights match of Portugal vs Iran had three instances where the ref had to run upto the screen and watch for himself of what happened. This just destroys the momentum of the game which is why I love football, the game flows throughout the 90 minutes but it stops every now and again. That is just messed up.

The game does stop more due to the players faking injuries! This bothers me more than the litte bit of extra justice the VAR delivers!

Bring in post-match yellows on replays and the faking will stop fast.

Could be a aolution but we will still have debates about it! Bit just like with the var is should be clear and obvious which isn’t always the case!

Yes the new generation doesn't understand the intensity Gattuso, patrick viera, puyol or giggs had, that is why I like Messi on the field only player who doesn't dive.

I think the world itself is meant to be unfair, if not o guess a lot of history would have changed, infact you and I may not even be here.
The maradona hand of God goal was meant to be, football is an unfair game if not how them would we live the passion, the beauty of it all it's in it's imperfection, and I think if time travellers and technology were to be taken back then, then we would be playing God,

it is fairly unfair for all :)

I think that ever since the 60s football has gone down hill and is much too much of a business. Bring back George Best is what I say...