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RE: Why am i strongly against nuclear disarmament?

in #politics7 years ago

Wall of text incoming; you have been warned.

The "ruling elite" remains in power regardless if war is fought or not. Real power never changes hands, friend. Someone might convince you that the war you're fighting is a slave rebellion. But after your blood is spilled you're given a new master. You're Russian. Kill the Tzar. Get a Commissar. Was it worth it? You're German. Hitler's dead and so is the Gestapo. But now you have to deal with the Stasi. You wait awhile. The USSR collapses. Now the Stasi are gone. But the EU controls your country. Was it worth it?

You're a Venezuelan communist. The landed gentry controls your country, so you nationalize all your country's resources. Capital flight ensues. Your people starve. Foreign funded guerillas try to unseat your government. Who are they funded by? Allies of the landed gentry whose property you stole. An international coalition arises to indict you for the crimes against humanity that your government committed. Besieged from without and from within, the socialist government you attempted to construct violently collapses. The guerilla warlords become the new landed gentry. Was it worth it?

Think before you act. If your government is so tyrannical and terrible that you truly MUST attempt to overthrow it because the alternative is certain death, go ahead and do so. But don't dress it up as a slave rebellion. You're simply trading masters. If you'd call me a slave just because I pay taxes, fine, I'm a slave. But compared to the peasantry of the past I am overfed and underworked, such are the wonders of technology. And though the elected government is, in a philosophical sense, equivalent to a rapacious thief, it does not lay at my feet an unbearable burden. So I bear it. And the shadow government, which I did not elect, which saw fit to appoint itself centuries before I was born, and which influences politics on a scale so massive that I cannot readily comprehend it, is completely unassailable. The shadow government is so pervasive and invisible that sometimes I think it might be a force of nature, like gravity or the invisible hand of the free market. So why would I fight? I would die for nothing but false promises. I am not a utopian. Slavery is measured on a continuum; my slavery coefficient is low enough that I barely notice it.

The way I see it there is no way to have complete freedom if you live on a planet with more than one person. There will always be something you can't own, something you can't do, and somewhere you can't go, unless you enslave everyone else. In the event of a rebellion, the likelihood that I would become Commissar of The World is so astronomically slim that I choose peace and mild slavery over war and abject slavery.

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Although it seemed a very good answer, I never said that we were slaves, that would be an insult to the slaves of the past.

If the elite that today governs most of the major countries is irrevocable, which is not today, then it will become tyrant.

The elites of the past are not the same as now, the monarchs became that tyrannical elite that was already overthrown.

If you choose slavery over war, then you will have slavery and then war. Because the latter is inevitable, and when it arrives, the people who chose slavery will be forced to fight because, as you said, the artenative will be a sure death.

Today we are not at that point, but it is the same forces of nature that placed that elite that will make people overthrow it.