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RE: Steemit Roadmap 2018: Community Input Requested

in #roadmap20187 years ago

Consider reintroducing the four-post reward limits.

Maybe not 4 but definitely a limit. Right now it is easy for relatively new accounts to post 200+ posts a day with only a url for content. Either that or a bandwidth penalty for short content.

A separate "Resteem" tab...

Please!

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There is bandwidth limit.

But short content has value, so who are you to limit it? What if people tweet over Steem?

The content isn't limited. The rewards are. And the rewards don't stop after the posting threshold is reached - the maximum allocated to each post is just reduced after that threshold.

If the maximum allocation threshold for parent posts is five posts, but you're posting 10 times per day, then instead of receiving the full $100 allocated to each of the ten posts ($1000), you may only receive $70 or $80 per post ($700 - $800) and the rest goes back into the daily pool.

There are various trade-offs between quality and quantity by doing this, but the point to remember is that it is a limited daily reward pool. On a future interface, it may be possible for a few celebrities "tweeting" 10 times per day to capture a massive percentage of that pool compared to the other millions of users. I think it would be good to have some sort of protocols in place to mitigate that type of reward allocation.

Some people will argue that it can easily be circumvented by creating sock puppets, but managing multiple accounts on a daily basis at least requires extra steps and would be enough to deter a good number of users. It might even be preferable to simply take the relatively small loss in rewards rather than manage multiple accounts. And those who decide to manage the multiple accounts will likely be discovered eventually, as they'll probably do their best to coordinate votes and interactions and have similar/identical content and behavior.

Overall, I think the goal continues to be token/rewards "distribution" as widely as possible. At least that's the argument that I keep hearing. This could certainly help, even with today's tiny user base.

Yeah it used to be like that last year and when it was, people like me were getting $500-1000 per post. They changed the rules because the rewards were concentrated on fewer posts, but it seem now people want to go back to the old rules. What difference does it make?

Under the old rules I could post long detailed posts and under the new rules I must post frequent but shorter posts. The truth is people don't really read the longer posts so it likely will just encourage the use of bots.

How the rewards don't stop after the posting threshold i s reached?

Who have time for 200+ posts per day?
I envy the persons who manage 4 a day as for me the max was 2 in a day!

Spammers are inventive.

  1. Scrape pages for memes and images - 5 minutes to get a few thousand
  2. Upload them to a web hosting site - another 5 minutes
  3. Load up a spreadsheet of links to the meme's and photos. - 2 minutes
  4. Enter title & tag in spreadsheet
  5. Export to csv.
  6. Feed csv to posting bot.

Maybe an hour to queue up several hundred posts. Especially if the post title can be taken from the file name.

200 posts in a day is physically impossible. The most I could do in a day was 16. But it also impossible to manually vote 90 votes in a day for the same reasons. So people don't vote and use bots.

https://steemit.com/@cryptomonitor

This guy is quite prolific!

247 top level posts yesterday, currently worth around $20($15 to him).

And people complained about me for posting 16 posts in one day (which is humanly achievable). 247 posts, only possible if there is either a team of humans, or if a human saved their posts in doc files to post on Steemit, but even then you would notice the frequency will taper off after a few days.

If it is a sustained frequency of hundreds of posts per day without any rest periods then you have to suspect a bot. That said it is $20 a day? It's not like he is getting rich.

Yeah that has to be scripted, i'd lose my mind very quickly if it was a manual task!

$15 isn't bad in some parts of the world.

I hear bandwidth could be the main issue - 4/5 images each post from what i see = 1000+ a day.

That is crazy!
I manage 38 blogs and 1048 posts and this in almost 5 months and this spammers are adding hundreds in one hour!!!
The worst thing is they dont add value to the platform...

200 posts a day is not humanly possible but anyone can post more than 4 a day. It doesn't actually matter how long or how short the posts or how many posts a day. What matters is growing the reward pool and increasing the size of the user base.

See my ideas for referral marketing programs for SMTs, and also like with anything people who have more time than money can post more than people who have more money than time. Increase the wealth of the network with SMTs to avoid the scarcity mind set.

200 posts a day 'is' (collectively) humanly possible... with a sufficiently big team of content creators or shadow-writers (discounting plagiarism). Just saying. :c)

maybe at least limit for resteeming? Right now there are many "I will resteem your post to 9876 followers for $9.99" bots

Markets are a good thing, they increase the value of the network. Less limits, grow the user base and connections between users. Limiting what people can do will not attract more people.

I'm reading your brilliance all down this page. Following.

Too many of those scams going around right now. A limit might just have them creating more accounts... That leads to more follow/unfollow bots working to gain followers for those accounts.

Not sure what a solution would be.

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