Moving to hive
Fuck you Justin, we're moving to Hive.
6 years ago in #steem by berniesanders (77)
$178.55
- Past Payouts $178.55, 0.00 TRX
- - Author $152.86, 0.00 TRX
- - Curators $25.69, 0.00 TRX
@berniesanders check this guy out, it seems as if this is trevon, or maybe craig. Don't know.
https://steemit.com/@novert
He keeps spending a ton on upvote bots and gets upvoted by trevon and craig each time. So it might be craig or trevon. Eitheir way the owner is a peice of shit and deserves to get flagged.
Upvoting myself in hopes that you actually see this.
Wow, now making $250+ a post, just making 1 post a day at the moment........ but still, there's no content there!, just a picture on closer look to random meaningless stuff, it gets depressing seen accounts like this getting money for this crap. By the way @buildawhale is upvoting those post too :S
@novert is following interesting people like: is haejin, jerrybanfield, sweetssj..
i was following jerrybanfield, but i guess is because i am still a newbie around and i need to gain power (knowledge)...
Yes, watch and learn for the moment. Help when you can. Checkout @fulltimegeek. He is a good role model. Also, (if you like gardening or homesteading,) @goldendawne.
And check for me.... @buildawhale has a blacklist... You may be able to report that account... That would be great if you can do that for us! @themarkymark is a good guy and against spam.
I posit very few whales will heed your call. You will find that frustrating and it will reinforce you in the belief that there are too few true heroes and unfortunately the filthy-rich on this Earth are overwhelmingly loathable scumbags.
While this is not entirely false, I would like to draw your attention to a bias you are introducing when observing the whales from your position (like in the Heisenberg uncertainty principle): you have a very blunt, uncompromising, some might say abrasive approach that is not conducive to consensus and collaboration. Some whales might thus be interested in working to clean this place up ... but not with you.
I do not say that in order to make you "feel" something. I say it in in the hope that you'll "think" up something. I am conviced you care a lot about this place (as I do). And that your goal is to have a better Steemit.
But if we admit that your personal approach to engaging with people might be counterproductive and repel some of those that share the same goal (a better Steemit), then up to where are you ready to change your approach, what are you ready to compromise in order to enlist more whales to work for that goal ?
Of course, there's also the possibility that you won't accept that your very personal approach of "slashing and burning" things (that can be indeed seen as deserving to be slashed and burned ) gets into the way of uniting the whales.
There was a truce called a few months back where haejin made a deal with bernie to use the 100% power up on 4/10 of his post's which was a fair compromise.
Unfortunately it didn't last long and now we are almost back to square 1.
I think steem would be far greater if abuse, hatred, and spam were all properly called out and flagged. If the system were perfect, the majority of the reward pool would be going towards high effort, community building content.
If you wish for other whales to join you, you should lead by example, and refrain from the abuse/excessive flagging of accounts that are NOT being abusive, including myself.
Whales need to be leaders of positivity, showing the best of what the platform can be. They also need to properly access and take action towards abuse.
I want to like you Bernie, but you often take things too personally to objectively access what is abuse.
I think some positive reinforcement of abuse-flagging would likely be most rewarding towards the community.
I have flagged endless amounts of spam, only to see 0 reward and my VP% go to 20. And then they end up flagging me back. If you can create a bot that rewards everyone and anyone for abuse flagging I think it would be extremely valuable to steem.
There needs to be a clearly defined line of what is abuse though- not the grey area you are creating.
best of luck.
Go back & post on @Haejin's blog. Quit trying to suck on his & bernies cocks. "I want to like you Bernie, but you often take things too personally to objectively access what is abuse." @berniesanders How many times is this fuck gonna play both sides of the war. And say goodbye to your 1REP now asshole.
Why are you so hateful? Get over yourself.
I comment on both of their blogs in hopes they can reach a positive resolution. I try to be friends with everyone on steemit, though I will always call out bullshit when I see it.
There isn't a clearly defined line of what is abuse thanks to bernie, which is something that needs to be fixed. I can comment on Haejin's blog, his blog, anyone's blog that I want to, and Bernie can flag me if he wants. I think it would be more beneficial if he clearly stated what I was doing to be abusive though.
I'll post on haejins blog and bernies blog if i want to. Gatekeep somewhere else prick!
Pick one cock to suck on & get over yourself.
help me become a whale and I will support your cause!
Sadly I can't help you that much, but I resteemed this for others to see.
You have my full support. Good luck!
I know this is for whales, but I think minnows can help as well. The problem is I flagged @haejin on a few articles for like 0.30 each and I've had just as many posts flagged for around 4-5 dollars each.
I just can't make additional one line posts and make that money back.
Idk maybe it's not worth it for minnows to get involved and maybe that's the lesson I've learned, but I don't like people may be easy rewards by lying to people either.
Focus on plagiarisers, scammers, and spammers. Leave the steemit success stories like @haejin alone.
He's not a success story unless you consider people like Bernie Madoff a success. He simply bought the pool. That's it. Any other rich person could do the same thing. This war helps to throw some doubt in their mind about that.
Do you have that evidence yet that haejin is rancho? Or that haejin funnels money back to rancho?
Makes no difference. Whether I buy the pool and give it to myself or buy the pool and give it to you, the result is the same. A single individual is responsible for that wealth in either case. That is not success. Additionally, that fact is information that should be taken into account when voting on his blog.
Then you should design a platform that rewards people based on something other than the steem that they have powered up.
Nope. No need. We just need a system that has checks and balances in place to stop abuse...Oh looky here:
It's called: POWER OF THE PEOPLE. Use your VOTES or FLAGS correctly. Just like who you vote for in Life. Same thing applies here. If enough people would all join in & flag every single thing @Haejin post on here daily he would be GONE.
Don't flag these people yourself, better delegate SP to @randowhale, receive some rewards and you can know for sure that bernie will flag some guys with that account :)
Just a reminder I had posted a comment to @trevonjb asking if he would be interested in negotiating a truce with you and use his 200,000 steempower to help ur cause I’m exchange for not flagging his posts, basically a lesser of two evils situation. You responded that he should message you, so just know I tweeted that at him, but I, sure he has hundreds of tweets and likely didn’t see it. I would encourage you to reach out to him, he has a lot of steempower and should be a huge difference in your fight again the reward pool stealer.
How are you going to tackle this from the source? I'm sure you have also read @schattenjaeger's most recent post on why he's leaving the platform.
As long as people are able to buy votes, I do not really see how this can be fixed by the community. It's like whack-a-mole, you downvote 5 posts and 10 new ones pop up...
I'm not saying that people should just accept this reality, but better solutions need to be found.
Just from a personal perspective, I'd hate to spend my time and effort in a platform that will just end up dying because artificially upvoted crap rules the trending section.
I'd be willing to delegate some of my very limited SP for a good cause btw.
buying votes is small potatoes ... the bigger issue is the plagiarism and copy/paste going on.
The whales should be joining bernie going after the bigger idiots but the rest of the community could be helping projects like @submarine and @steemcleaners clean up the plagiarism and copy/paste
Excellent comment, I was thinking this too. Thanks for mentioning @shsttenjaeger 's post.
With the way things are right now, tackling at the source is not possible. I think the whales here forgot about what's in the original whitepaper, which is a shame.
Yes, it's a never-ending battle, but it's one that needs to be fought if Steem is to survive given nobody is making any worthwhile updates to the blockchain itself.
I just wish that Steemit would make it easier and more fun to do proper manual curation.
Currently the way everything is displayed on the Steemit website isn't really supportive of good manual curation. More filtering options would be great and better community highlights would be a nice addition.
But can't trending algorithms be changed at the condenser level? Trending. That's really what the whole bot voting thing comes down to isn't it? If the site developers could come up with a better trending algorithm, and showcase better content on the main pages, it would drive more users to Steem. Mind you, I'm not saying do anything with the rewards. Whales upvotes, self-votes and all that would still work...which would make abuse less noticeable, so there would have to be some brainstorming on a solution for that. I don't know. I'm just throwing out ideas.
The same thing could happen for rep which sucks currently. One person, no matter how powerful, should be able to totally silence or otherwise affect the reputation of another. This is a main factor that kept minnows from joining the fight as well. It could be totally changed at the condenser level...in fact it already is a function of the condenser, based on info from the blockchain.
I've thought that TRENDING should maybe only show the top trending post of 1 per person MAX. That way the system can't be gamed. More people's trending post would get to appear on it. Not just @Haejin's garbage.
This implies identity verification for participation on a block-chain and most people are against that for various good reasons. Correct me if I am wrong on this. I would like to be.
Well at least 1 per steemit account which I was kind of trying to say. Something like that. Have a max number of post a user can have trending at a certain time.
No Abuse?
So, the three other accounts that voted up your comments would be able to get to the trending page too? Don't you think that is gaming the system as well?
I think this is a hard problem.
The Tragedy of the Commons
Many users do not know what is considered wrong behavior for the platform. There is a tragedy of the commons problem where every user can get more utility by up-voting themselves (either directly or through alt-accounts). We would benefit more as a group in finding better content if we all would vote articles according to article quality. Those that do not vote for themselves are fools that get less and less utility and thus become poorer and poorer.
Flagging people with very large stakes to that vote themselves have problems
How do you know how to map accounts to people? (An answer bittrex memo codes). Votes can be bought and so how do you determine which were bought when votes can be bought (out of band: another altcoin, or fiat)
Flagging can also be abuse
Is it right to flag all of the posts because of what a user wrote in one? This is flag abuse. Or flagged because she is the wife of Jerry Banfield.
Are there any blockchain updates in particular that you'd like to see to help address this? or changes that you think have caused it to be worse now than previously? Getting the economic incentives right seems nearly impossible to me.
I agree bro, unfortunately I aint a whale. I have the time but not the SP