Moving to hive
Fuck you Justin, we're moving to Hive.
6 years ago in #steem by berniesanders (77)
$691.74
- Past Payouts $691.74, 0.00 TRX
- - Author $623.00, 0.00 TRX
- - Curators $68.73, 0.00 TRX
@sweetsssj SP is the responsibility of it's delegators, Who is this person and what is his motive to still delegate to her after this much apparent selective rewarding?
A quick review of these 3 account show that they are controlled by the same person. @hendrikdegrote
@systema
@temet-nosce
http://www.steemreports.com/delegation-info/?account=sweetsssj
Has anyone tried or been able to contact the person behind @hendrikdegrote to let him know how his stake is being abused?
So why don't you just flag it then, that's what the 12 hours of only downvoting are for, no?
We have already seen all this shit about sweetsssj a ton of times now. You are taking the piss if you genuinely think that the answer to this is you getting paid 500 SBD from the reward pool for telling us all something we already knew, and that we lack the power to do anything about.
You have the power. So do it silently and stop raping the reward pool. You really have no reason to. If you want legitimate reasons to post that are worthy of rewards, I have no problem giving you ideas. I have many that would be good for someone like you. I wouldn't even want anything in return other than for you to stop taking the piss with these tiny posts that are full of shit we already knew, that are milking the reward pool unnecessarily.
You've been here long enough to know that flagging is a complete waste of voting power. If I'm going to flag, you better believe I'm going to recover those lost rewards somehow.
Also, dummy, as you can see I paid for all of these votes and will likely not earn more than I spent to have this pushed to the top of trending.
bernie will you check out this post I have done on @twitternomore here: https://steemit.com/life/@barne734/twitternomore-stealing-from-the-reward-pool
Somehow this profile is able to upvote their own post with only 200 Steem power and they receive around $9 SBD, how is this possible, I have around 700 sp and can only upvote myself around $0.21 SBD?
The irony in this ...
Yeah, no kidding! So @barne734, I think you saw my comment on the other thread that it's just a sock puppet account from nextgen622, who is the one voting the twitternomore posts up.
Do you upvote a lot of things? Each time you upvote, it dilutes your future upvoting power temporarily. It's a little more complicated than this, but I think basically you recharge 20 100% upvotes each day. If you go over that, then it will take more than one day to recharge back to full upvoting power.
try 20- 100% UV/day and lmk how that works out for ya ;)
It's 11 by my calculations. But the recycle period on that would be right at 24 hours so they say 10 votes.
Doesn't upvoting someone else work the same as flagging? In that teh pool is fixed so by upvoting someone else you shift the percentage payouts?
I think the real problem on this site is that only a few people vote, most don't bother because they think their votes don't count (though they do in aggregate).
When you flag you take away from one person, when you upvote you take away from everyone. Not quite the same.
Thank you for that thorough explanation Mr. sLanders.
Maybe that's the question. How can people be encouraged to curate? My typical .001 curation rewards won't encourage it for returns, but people do it on Quora and Reddit for free because of engagement.
What's different? I really think if we had some sort of communities, it would help. The trending page is mostly crap, and if you're not interested in pumping the crypto of the day, it's boring. I've followed people who interested me, but most of them don't post that often because, you know, it's not worth it if you can't get exposure.
This! You are so on point. The barrier to getting a post worth anything for anyone’s with under 1000 SP is really going to hurt and make it so those whales are now super powerful and we need to retool the site so we can handle when YouTube and other social media start losing users to us. I think there are a lot of tweaks that would make this destination numero uno for a lot of people. But there are certainly things holding it back like the utter powerlessness of a user like me who has 500+ followers but can’t get a blog above $1 no matter what I do, what I write about, how I tag it and what time I post it. If we had groups we would have microenvironments that people could become involved in and it wouldn’t absolutely benefit the platform and all users current and future as a whole. Without a doubt. Upvoted and Followed.
Very well said have an upvote and follow me old mate
If I could ask you to take a look at my recent post titled 'Steemit: The Curation Leagues' - This is my method, I offer prizes for doing it!
That's a great effort. Thanks for contributing.
are you going to join the fun?
Thats awesome man! At what point in a New Steemian career can they even offer that type of Blog contest or prize without at least having a good followings, reps, steem dollar/power/steem etc?
So far I've fckin spent approx 40 quids in time, shuffling on steemit.
Now I've realized it's loads of sht I want my money back.
Yeah, you can't get any visibility without votes, but you can't get votes without visibility. Obviously, the company line is you have to invest to power up, get a delegation, etc. I've also heard you had to produce qualify content, and that would certainly help, but judging by the trending page, it doesn't ALWAYS appear to be a requirement.
Seriously, you can get some traction without that by engaging with communities and promoting your work, but it's very tough because it takes a lot of skill, improvement, and endurance. That's why there are so many inactive users.
Anyway, I just throw a bit out here and there and hope that in a year or two the ship's still floating, and my account will be worth more. It's no get-quick-rich platform unless you enter into it funded with either money or a large base of followers.
This isn't necessarily a total criticism. My daddy always used to warn me that the world did not revolve around me. I'm just saying that people need to have the right expectations.
Beautifully said. I am in that slow riding boat. I can see the trend that people who have a good following from youtube can make it good on steemit. Hence why Im gonna start doing more parody skits on youtube in the long run in hopes of building a fan base. Its gonna take a lot of work and time. I will do it for fun or else I will feel burnt out when I see no quick progress. It should not be a get rich quick gimmick, here on steemit or on youtube.
So when you say that you will recover those lost rewards, what does that mean?
Sweetsssj appears to be recovering her lost rewards by upvoting accounts that cash out to the same account as she does, and I understand fully why you find this repulsive, because seems not just greedy, but also deceptive. But, at the end of the day, she's trying to recoup losses to inflation that this platform imposes on all STEEM holders.
So, what's your method of keeping those rewards for yourself, and what makes your method morally superior to hers?
And, if it is morally superior, why aren't you just teaching her to do it your way instead?
You could promote instead of self-voting if you want visibility.
We could make votes go down in value as posts age so day one votes at 100% are worth 100% but a last minute day six vote at 100% is only worth say 20%.
Dang Bernie. You are on a crusade. I couldnt help but laugh when you called "son of satire" dummy. Simple non expletive language. I like. I know you are against people like haijin and trevonj. Saw an old post where you flagged Dollarvigilante. I know I will be a whale one day. How do I give back to the community and not become a greedy son of a gun?
Recover this!
I do not consider the removal of rewards from abusers and the redistributing of reward funds to the rest of the community as a waste of voting power. Much to the contrary, I consider it the responsibility of high SP accounts such as yourself.
You have already recovered the rewards a million times over through selling your voting power that you are supposed to be using to reward quality content(and that you are still receiving curation rewards on your sold votes for doing so).
Also, you paid for these votes? I would have thought you had been here long enough to know that I am not as shortsighted as your average Steemit user. Yes, you might have paid for them. But you also sold them. So you bought them from yourself, meaning that you will earn;
So, remind me again. What exactly did you pay?
That was rhetorical. I don't care for a wasteful back and forth. I want only for you to make an attempt to overcome your fear. It is clear you are afraid of looking as though you have lost; you are afraid of losing what you have accumulated; and you are afraid of not being the biggest fish in the pond forever.
It's time to grow up, Bernie. I know you are not half the cunt you purport yourself to be. When you are ready to challenge yourself, as a man does, and see if you can still be a winner without having to cheat, and perpetuate an economy of losers, then I will do, as a man does, and put all the bullshit you have done behind me and offer you my support to help you achieve that end.
Some of us have been in this space together for a long time now. Love it or hate it, we have become somewhat of a family, and STEEM our child that we are raising in the wrong fucking way. If we don't stop projecting the worst parts of us onto our baby, in its infancy, then I can assure you that what we raise into the world will be monstrous. I speak to a decade or two in the future in this instance, and I mean every word. Much like a natural child will be greatly impacted by events in their earliest years, so too will this network we call STEEM. If we start approving of shit that we should not right now, in a couple of years it will be the norm and there will be a far more abusive things going on that we are questioning; and so on and so forth until the very notion of community has been defeated.
However, if we can summon the courage to take a step forward and decide that we are going to try and do this the right way, and see if we can still achieve what we want, then perhaps the abuse that is stomped out in these early days will set a strong principle that will lead STEEM to a place of usefulness and benefit to the society of the future. Instead of just more of the fucking same.
The ONLY bot of my own that I used was @randowhale. The rest of the large votes on this post are NOT my bots.
I didn't read past that because I'm assuming it's pure bullshit just like the beginning of your ignorant rant. You need to get a clue, right now you haven't got one.
Don't attempt to obfuscate the issue. @randowhale may or may not be the only bot of yours that has upvoted this post, but several of your other accounts have. Also, I have seen no evidence that you are not transisto, and so for all I know they're fucking all you.
But either way it does not matter. I have said my piece, and I won't keep giving you more excuses to rape the reward pool via comment upvotes.
Also, we all know you read it. And your electing to pretend you did not only highlights my point. It is time to grow up, Bernie. And that means start living up to the responsibilities that come with being a highly influential member of an economy that determines the well-being of (soon)millions-- and their families.
I'm going to grow up by making sure nobody sees the bullshit lies you are spreading, to start.
Thank you for the flags. They were very informative.
Also; feel free to quote me on one of these lies you speak of. I doubt you shall find one.
"determines the well-being of (soon)millions-- and their families" - fucking moron
Well you guys are having a swell time going on each other like. Well @son-of-satire I want you to know that I need help in what form.
I am afraid I do not understand. Can you elaborate?
The squeaky wheel right? I value people pointing it out. We need people that will take abuse to express their speech especially in order to highlight issues in Steemit. We all want this to be a fair place so I have no issue with this post especially if there was time put in to research and not taking drone pictures of a beach and the luxury resort you are at paid for by pointless blogs. It leaves a bad taste. On that I will always agree and the community needs to stop pushing these single posts so high with SP delegation. Maybe the delegation is turning out to be too easy to use to game the algo. Was Steemit designed to do that or are what we see artifacts of a flawed idea?
A good one here
You have a point of view. on my own view @berniesanders on his part is a jealousy. because our lovely sexy sweetsssj must on a win win situation on her part. it's that's true @son-of-satire? just only my opinion?
I have read a few posts about @sweetsssj, it sounds like she has tons of accounts and uses @ned's delegation to upvote each, then sends all the rewards to the same Bittrex account.
The @ned delegation was canceled on october 24th 2017
https://steemd.com/tx/29bd56a79d4f7843a632f4e4ec8178b42fd7ac31
Currently @sweetsssj has delegations of
351265 SP from @hendrikdegrote
301294 SP from @systema and
108270 SP from @temet-nosce
http://www.steemreports.com/delegation-info/?account=sweetsssj
The Real Slim Shady
Source
Source of comment: https://steemd.com/tx/cd26de02723f7d1b7c5f6be0d738718856610741
https://steemit.com/steemit/@walden/sweetsssj-sixth-day-eleventh-hour-selfvoting-via-a-13-account-content-farm
SHE IS NOT ONE PERSON, SHE IS A GROUP THAT HAS HIRED HER, AND PAYING HER FOR CLICKS, THE WRITEUP IS NOT HERS. THEY ARE MAKING BUG BUCKS ON HER. SHE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THOUGH, YOU NEED TO FIND, THERE ARE MANY. FUCKUP IS YOU CANT SCREW WITH TEHM, AS THEY ARE WHALES.
Obviously, I saw a documentary of how social media celebrities in china have whole teams. She is only the poster girl. Perhaps she doesn't even take most
of the money and very unlikely she even writes her own posts.
But she is not the biggest abuser as she stopped posting several days ago. She could be posting everyday but for some reason she stopped so that's weird. On the other hand there are several abusers who are flying under the radar and should be brought forward
i dont wanna name but, have u seen 5-10 post of same member on the trending page? also doesnt show face in any of the post.
I bet it starts with an "h".
nope.. not haejin..
Thanks for the info, I didn't realize @ned ended the delegation.
Nice meme XD
Full disclosure.... I have @sweetsssj on my auto voter and have communicated with her a lot through comments on here but also I think what has been brought up is interesting as well.
In a self governance model that is transparent like this everything will be questioned for sure.
That being said I'm more on @sweetsssj 's side on this matter.
She had the resources to continue to produce content when STEEM was worth $0.07 and took a big risk in doing so. Where was I? I felt like I couldn't risk my time and was so pissed off at the platform because it seemed like something with huge potential that got drove into the ground.
In the end she seems real and like a nice person.
At the end of the day do we know everything that is going on with those accounts and who controls them? Not really. It could be friends, family, or employees.
Almost all the people on this Blockchain are looking to profit in one way or another. She has the resources and connections to make what most of us would consider to be extra ordinary income. I'm not jealous of that...... she is just on a bigger playing field at this given time.
The main thing that I think the argument carries weight is that the upvotes are coming in at the last minute which to me would indicate that she knew they would get called into question and might get flagged....etc But what if she would have just upvoted those up front? Would we have this same conversation.
All that being said I'm keeping my auto voter up for @sweetsssj at this given time but I think that everyone should make their own decision on what they want to do since different information is presented.
And no it isn't because I get her upvotes. I haven't been upvoted by her for a really long time. That is fine though....... I just look like an ADHD basement dwelling freak over on my blog.
Ned never ate with me. :_(
Well reasoned and rational response. I wonder when it will get flagged.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck
Tasting gives a more reliable result.
I'm new so I'm still not fully understanding this but looks like you've got some good points. If I do understand what Bernie is saying, she's taking advantage of the system and you are saying, she's using the system optimally. I don't know the knowledge to agree or disagree with anyone yet. But if she's creating content people are reading, that's good. It's what most social media is about. Yes there are plenty of internet "stars" making good money in sponsors etc.
So could someone contact the others who have delegated steem power to her and ask them to withdraw the delegation?
NO BODY WILL DO IT..
One of the reasons i love @berniesanders is that he always speaks for the growth of steemit and any fraudulent act or misconduct, he takes it so serious and for thes reason alone, i love what you are doing.
Lol. Ignorant sycophant.
Even if they lower the time period within which you can vote, the abusers will just lower the timing of the votes as well.
What this smells like, if I were a betting bot, is that these individuals are taking a similar stance to @transisto's recent defense of his involvement with the @zer0hedge account saying that cashing out SBD's is a "hedge" against prices falling, as someone who is heavily invested in SP. That in itself is an understandable position for someone to make as an investor.
These people delegating to sweetsssj in this case might be wanting to deflect the public rage onto someone who has already been seen flagrantly abusing delegations and the pool before with such behavior, so her public image can't really take a hit when it's already been destroyed, and they attempt to shield their own accounts from such accusations and save face while cashing out on the side.
Just a hypothesis. They'd probably rather be known as the cool guys who support cool things, not the people who upvote crap at the last minute to make sure their bags paid something out along the way. I can't blame them, just look at the flack sssj is taking right now.
Are the 2nd and 3rd accounts you listed even people? They're delegating out all their power and don't post anything.
Thank you for the post , very good
Always knew there was something shady behind the One Inch Make up Face.
What does using @ned do? Do a bunch of botts just upvote those? I read her posts and they're well written ...
Wow...how it can be recognized such action in the future? and is there any way to avoid that kind of things, sorry for such stupid question, I am really new beginner in this business @gonzo
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but the best way to avoid it, is to never click on @sweetsssj's posts.
Seriously, there are some things that you just can't unsee!
Ha ha!
How did she get ned's delegation in the first place/his upvote power/whatever? Just wondered because I'm not really sure how it works but I'm intrigued as to how she got to such a position
Well Ned visited her once.... sweetssj must be very sweet if you get my drift.
Spicyyyy
you can buy bots to upvote your posts.
I didn't realise you could do it to that degree! Thanks for the insight
She didn't buy it. She got ned's delegation via ned.
Oh okay! Thanks for the info!
now, that is working the system to its full potential. dang!
That is clever of @sweetssj
beautiful picture of a girl I like
@berniesanders you should make a bot like randowhale (or make it bid based) where people can buy a flag but also have it so that delegators get a percentage of the profits received from transactions. You could also add a list of users that are blacklisted from being flagged by it (like say your accounts) or something. just an idea!
I'm considering going that route, I've been hesitant to up to this point but we're almost there.
I had thought about doing it but I do not have the infrastructure in order to run it and have a constant uptime etc.
Please make the Flagging bot so at least new users can pay back whales who are abusing their power. I for one have a few on my list
i dont wanna name but, have u seen 5-10 post of same member on the trending page? also doesnt show face in any of the post. @berniesanders
Flagging this reply:
-abuse of your multiple sock puppet Steemit accounts used to upvote yourself
-unmerited rewards that you upvoted to yourself
No one would use this bot. It literally burns money.
What profits would there be? Transactions? Do you understand how any of this works?
Profits is a bad term in this case since you will not be making money. Minimizing losses is probably the closest to what he meant.
The transaction that he is referring to is the buying of the flag. It would technically be a service one is buying so transaction is a proper term for it.
He could have worded it better, yes, but for you to act like he doesn't understand how this works falls on your lack of understanding what he was trying to say.
Maybe the people with large amounts of voting power might but there are some of us that do not have the voting power to fight abuse as much as we want and would be willing to use some of our SBD to actually help fight abuse.
My vote, for instance, is worth ~$0.26 (dependent on value of steem and how much is in the reward pool) and so when I see someone comment 13 times on one of my posts and each one gets upvoted to over $1 (and they are absolute spam shitposting) and I can't do anything to fight it, yeah I would pay to have that sh!t flagged.
As for transactions, a transaction doesn't cost money but buying a flag for someone elses post would definitely earn money, you know how many people I have heard talk about something like this? Asking if such a thing existed? Like I think your ~$40,000 USD account and rep of 70 has you sitting up on a high horse not realizing what its like for the little guys.
Profits recieved from transactions is if I send 1 SBD to the bot then it has a debit of 1 SBD ergo profit, say 100 people buy a flag with an average of 4 SBD a flag (400 SBD) then maybe the delegators would get say 50% of that split between them and the bot keeps the other 50% (just how randowhale and most other vote bots split it)
It is, by definition, profits. So I do not know what you are implying but I think you have a lack of understanding on how steem works.
because it's money left at the table. A good business person will pick up every penny they can.
https://steemit.com/@trendylife
https://steemit.com/@honeybee
https://www.mspsteem.com/@michaelleeld
https://steemit.com/@helgachen
Fun to be SweetSJJsJSJSJj
Just please don’t tell me sweeetssj is a man. My feels....
It could very well be a male editor writing all of the stories for her.
Here's an interesting thread on a similar subject.
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/769gsg/up_to_90_of_chinese_exchange_students_have_hired/
its a group of people, not a single person.. she just gets some money.
We don't know, but she loves asian models.
Really, she upvote @agab , who post only models with instagram links.
See her comment
Prove of my words is my post link to post which was flagged
Irrelevant what she's into.
Why? I show that she loves models. It's really correlate with man joke
Bernie follows you one month and I saw you found 3 or 4 members who abuse the upvote system of all, just because they have in their turn power than vote what result in the top of the page: sweersssj haejin.We have found one worse than the two above (msteemian)which puts the items copied 100 %, then invests 300-400 sbd them at the top of the page.I am little to do something but I think you know what needs to be made.Thank you so much, a good day IonutCiobanu
Yeah they just posted today and upvoted that sucker huge. Big gamble. That is a little different, they didn't vote at the last second.
Here's the official list of Deli's for the @sweetsssj account, via screenshot:
I left the url on it so you can verify, heck here's a clickable link ;)
@sweetsssj delegators