Where have all the rewards gone?

in #steem8 years ago

So, i've been watching my rewards dwindle off to less than 1sbd per post.
I'd be more worried about that, but i notice that alot of other peoples' rewards have dropped, too.
My curation rewards have dropped by 2/3 and they never were much.
Voting posts unlikely to get more than one sbd is like that.
If you support the newbs dont expect any attaboys from those selling their votes.

Then i see this: https://steemit.com/gathering/@ned/in-my-ear-right-now/
And i have to wonder, wtf?
Ned can't pull 4sbd on a post with 170+ votes?
Where are all the whale votes?
Are even the minnows delegating everything to bots?

It occured to me well over a year ago that stinc could shadow ban accounts and unless we had access to the blockchain to see them there, we would never see them on steemit, nor have evidence of their existence beyond rewards going to pot.
Well, here we are, rewards have dropped off a cliff, what gives?

Stinc certainly isnt fixing their mistakes, have they doubled down?
Are invisible, to steemit users, accounts raping the pool with the cloaking device stinc created to help hide the abuse?
They liked whales selling votes, why wouldnt they like them selling votes invisibly?
That way they dont have to worry about catching heat for letting their favorites eat the commons.

When @dan was here selling votes was a no-no.
It happened, but not openly, shamelessly.
Selfvoting occured, too, but not openly on trending, if you dont count @curie paying themselves with @ned's posting key.

I mean, stinc hardforked steem to enable #rewardpoolrape in the first place, just after dan threw up his hands in disgust.
They knew that the changes in hf18 & 19 would enable whales to selfvote easier, they knew vote selling would be rampant.
They tried the same bs bot owners tried, 'We are doing it for the minnows.', and we swallowed it, willingly.
They used our good natured projection against us.
The white paper openly states abusers are providing a service, elitists think that we deserve to be abused if we allow it to continue.
When the new cto says, openly, that he doesnt care about the first million accounts, is there any question that he has elitist tendencies? (That wasnt the only thing he said.)
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Wake up, steemizen!
Are you still asleep to the fact that the illuminati control things decades before they go mainstream?
They couldnt keep sacrificing babies if they didnt.
Is there any question that stinc chose the wealthy over the rest of us?

Some of us gave up the fight to make steem attractive to the newbs and joined the whales' side.
You know who you are, sellouts.
Hope that whale jazz tastes good to y'uns.
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Well, i am asking wtf is happening with rewards?
Are the bots sucking all the air out of the room?
Are secret accounts transacting off the trending page?

Does anybody gaf?
I know the whales dont, or things would change.
They certainly lit a fire under stinc when @smooth & @abit put the wompus onto them with the experiment, huh?

This is the way @ned wants these things, do you need a better reason that steem sucks as a social media rewarding, crypto distributing platform?
Sure, sure, if you pay to suck whale balls, or sell your soul to @curie, you can get rewards, but nobody else needs to apply, and that nobody is a sizeable chunk of the number of people with accounts.

I dont know about you, but im tired of the bs.
Im not the only one, either.
Plenty of formerly whale favored golden boys are getting hip, too.
Its not hard to find them.
They are the ones denouncing vote selling.

I will be adjusting my witness votes.
I will now only vote witnesses outside the top 30, with only a couple exceptions.
Its a symbolic gesture, we all know that freedom decides who the top 20 will be.

The sad thing is that any prospective investors worth their salt, know it, too.

I hope we dont have to go back to a dime before those that put personal profit over the ecosystem's attractiveness to outsiders decide to let the rest of us have some, too.
We are supposed to be distributing a currency, not rewarding investors, yes?

Mass adoption was the stated goal, now is it make the rich insiders even richer?
Actions speak louder truths than words.

Vote FBA 'Rey del Mundo!'

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One problem I see is that many users are just too lazy to search, read and upvote articles manually. They simply upvote the same people again and again in an automated way. That means articles from newbies (and also from some quite experienced users) just don't get enough upvotes anymore because nobody is reading them. I notice that while observing the accounts of new users I have brought here to this platform: if I didn't upvote them they wouldn't earn anything at all.

They simply upvote the same people again and again in an automated way.

True, @jaki01. And if you look at many posts that get these autovotes, the number of comments are low.

I paused my autovotes because I wasn't going in to comment. I like searching around for newbs or authors I've never found using tags or clicking over from comments. Rewards for upvoting newb or plankton/redfish posts are nil because they often get no other votes, but I feel good encouraging these authors to keep publishing.

When many more seasoned Steemians speak of engagement, they mean, as you said, upvoting and maybe commenting on a small circle of Steemian friends they've made and feel familiar with.

I may never reach anywhere on this platform but I like to meet and greet new Steemians every comment round I make.

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I may never reach anywhere on this platform but I like to meet and greet new Steemians every comment round I make.

Nice to meet you. :)

My pleasure, @jaki01. ;)

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Yes, the content discovery tools here could use some help.
I turned off my steemvoter and lasted about a week before i turned it back on.
I couldnt remember all those names and just using tags didnt give me all their posts.

I have a list of authors which produce (in my subjective opinion) good content. I go through this list manually and check the newest posts of these authors to upvote the ones I like. If I discover interesting articles from authors I didn't know so far I add them to my list.

Yep, that is how i use my steemvoter, but i pick authors i want to support and vote enough that the rewards dont round down.

This is so true my friend.. actually i'm going to remove all the people i put in auto.

I think you're on to something there. I have recently found a small band of newer users with a similar interest to my Lego hobby. I try to do what I can to support them, but my vote value is below the "dust" threshold so often their efforts go unrewarded. It's frustrating because if the new users don't feel valued or appreciated then they have no incentive to stick around

Fortunately my upvote counts something, but nevertheless it is strange if my friends join this platform and only receive upvotes from me but from nobody else ...

Yeah, it's certainly disheartening when you're new here and nobody sees what you put up. It just takes time and effort to build a following - and also time and effort from those who do have some vote strength to find and encourage good work.

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You have a minor misspelling in the following sentence:

It occured to me well over a year ago that stinc could shadow ban accounts and unless we had access to the blockchain to see them there, we would never see them on steemit, nor have evidence of their existence beyond rewards going to pot.
It should be occurred instead of occured.

Good catch, quick, too!

It is my feeling that critical mass is growing against vote buying, or counterfeit steem as it was named in a recent blog post of mine.

https://steemit.com/steem-network/@novacadian/where-is-the-trust-in-proof-of-brain-mining

Big stake holders could continue to resist and risk a fork, in the truest sense of the word, in the open sourced exposure they now find themselves.

Yep, if they keep it up and they are going to hold 80% of nothing.

Its no secret that when another site is viable this place is left by everybody that doesnt like it.
Which is nearly everbody not on the whale teat.

We seriously need to wake before it's too late..i'm so fucking worried about the future of steemit.

Nah, there are plenty of new suckers to buy into the lies, steem will be just fine.
Price might have to continue to be supported by manipulation, but those are the folks benefitting by scamming the suckers, so its just a cost of doing business.

I wouldnt worry about steemit, that aint going far... BUT STEEM on the otherhand..

I'd love to say I understood what you was on about, but I cannot lie - I don't.

I do think you know more than me about this and you are person of principle, so I'll support your view, sir!
(kinda like proxy witness vote lol. I think. who am I kidding? I don't know shite about his place, I just wanna post content and make my bowl of rice..)

Most of us are happy with what the community votes to us, those that arent are sucking up all they can.
As their influence grows, ours shrinks, eventually that kills the platform.
Better we nip that crap in the bud, but those with the power to do so are in cahoots with the abusers.

If Steemit doesn't shape up a clone site will come along and take the forefront in becoming the next leading social network.

Looks like that is what stinc wants to happen, then them and their buddies can scam this platform for all the suckers it can take.

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