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RE: Can we have downvotes and at the same time prevent 'flag wars'?

in #steem5 years ago

Thank you for the post. I have thought about this, and it seems that this downvote issue is a lot more complicated then I had initially thought.

At first, I thought that making downvoter specify the reason would help alleviating personal retaliations or "emotional" attacks.

It seems that I was naive... After observing this Hive drama and what some of hive users are doing on steem... now I would not be surprised that they will automate downvote bot and spam the same downvote "reason" msg all over.

Moving forward, I believe that we should either remove the free downvoting mana and/or use the Steem inc stake delegation to counter spam/etc.

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I'm for removing the free downvotes. The ability to decrease the payout of a post should come with a cost, as it was before implementing the EIP.

My full answer in @donekim's poll post:
https://steemit.com/hive-101145/@steemchiller/q8s0d9

During the time we had no 'free' downvotes @haejin (as my example here) exploited the rewards pool. When they got introduced he stopped. Now he is exploiting the rewards pool again.
For me it is obvious that farming like that won't be combatted if downvotes cost something.

I read your full answer. You wrote the same as I stated, too: free flags are used mainly by whales because all others fear retaliation. That's why I am in favour to implement arbitors/committees of users to protect people from retaliation and flgas given just for personal reasons.

Hm - If you recognise a crime and go to police to tell about this, what would you say if police want to have a fee from you cause you gave them this information ?

... now I would not be surprised that they will automate downvote bot and spam the same downvote "reason" msg all over.

What about adding the necessity to solve CAPTCHAs before giving a flag? That may help against automation ...

This right here.

Not sure about technical feasibility, but that certainly be a solution.

Any bot interacting with the API could get around this easily

Just don't allow users (bots) who are directly interacting with the api to flag? :)

For me best way would be to use the Steem inc stake delegation to counter spam/etc.

To remove the free downvotes means that many user don't want use their votepower for downvotes.

F.E. to announce child pornografy (as one example) should be honored and not punished (by loosing your votepower).

How many people would not go to police and announce their some crime if they would know that they had to pay a fee to the police for this ?