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RE: Steemian List of Assets Stolen by Hive

in #steem5 years ago

You know as a witness you really should know better than claiming something is stolen when there was no entitlement to it in the first place. Even if I don't totally agree with the exclusion list, those on it were not entitled to receive the airdrop in the first place, thus nothing was stolen.

I did receive the airdrop, but, they are found tokens not something I was entitled to. Misrepresentation doesn't strengthen an argument, it weakens it.

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I personally don't care about the coins, nor the exclusion list, as I have no interest in posting on Hive.

My grievance is with the assets Hive stole from me, namely, my original content. I've never signed over licensing of my content over to Hive. That did not happen. They did not receive my permission to clone and publish my content.

I do have an entitlement to the intellectual rights to my own work.

To me, this list represents a list of Steem members whose intellectual property was plagiarized and is being used to promote a new business venture.

Their assets were indeed stolen.

The bottom line is: I did not give my consent. I do not wish my content nor my name on Hive.

You might be the most stupid person that I've seen online since 2001.

You did put this stuff online yourself - on a full public chain. Lucky you, you could go and delete your content. But that ain't the point right? You just want to drift with the water of endless stupidity.

Btw. every Witness server basically has offline copies of your posts, to be able to run properly. This is like christmas, right?

Now, the argument in regards to content, I can totally agree with. I can't offer a solution or a process to get the content removed but I totally understand the argument.

I am a writer. I would not want my content posted without my consent.

The decentralized nature of a blockchain does present a problem in getting unwanted content removed by the rightful owner. I'm not technically inclined enough to know how it would be accomplished short of suggesting you log in long enough to delete the content.

If you wanted to do that and were in need of HP for resource credits in order to do the deleting, I can offer some delegation to support that.

I published the first chapter of one of my books on Steem as a gift to the Steem community. I also published segments of two other books I am working on, also as a gift to the community of Steem. These are life long projects that are very near and dear to my heart. Not the mention the endless quantity of high quality photography that was not published anywhere else(again as a gesture of love and kindness to the community).
I feel extremely violated that my content is being used to promote someone else's business(especially this one).
Why? I have a grievance with some of the witnesses after spending many hours researching wallets, accounts, transactions, histories and more(and what I discovered as a consequence). This is why I do not wish to support their work. I do not support some of the decisions they have made in the past.
I feel betrayed, I lost my trust in them, and I have no faith moving forward with them.
I feel that is my right.

I absolutely agree that I am not "entitled" to any of their coins. I understand that I voiced a counter opinion and did not vote with them. I understand they gifted tokens only to those they deemed "worthy".

Yes @shawowspub, all I want is to remove my content from Hive. That is what I am upset about.

Help would be greatly appreciated!

I use the expression of extortion because they put it under their control, not @null.
If I were @null, I wouldn't be angry.

If they had sent the funds to @null that would have not allowed them to make them available for turning over to those who are successful on appeal. I would rather there is a process to let some who were caught up in a situation gain the airdrop than to see them all go to @null.

Again, not stolen. Can't steal what is not owned.

Again, people's intellectual property is being used to promote a business venture without their consent.

Ergo, "stolen assets".

AND once again, I have already agreed with you in regards to the IP. However, the post being replied to says nothing about the IP and everything about airdops that there is no entitlement to.

My bottom line: I just want my all of my content and my name removed from Hive. That's it. I just want to move forward from this whole horrible experience. Why does it have to go on and on and on? Enough already. They should remove my content or let me remove my content and let me live in peace. I just want to move forward!

Well I offered you a way to support you removing your content, that is all that is within my power.

I would/will gladly accept that help, so I can remove my posts and move on with my life. Seriously, I would greatly appreciate the help! It will be a lot of work to remove the posts manually, but I am happy to do it myself. I just have no power to be able to do it. I would greatly appreciate the help. That would be very nice if you would do that. Please and thank you.

done.. I have delegated 50HP to you. If you find that is not enough to accomplish what you're doing hit me up on discord (same name) and I'll increase it.

I agree with you. I do not personally feel like I am entitled to an airdrop from another blockchain. (An interesting point though is that it was promised to all users, and then that promise was walked back on the premise of punishing those who "support centralization". In all honesty, it was well known that Ned's stake existed and that the chain was not truly centralized to begin with. But, that's a whole other discussion. I voted against the witnesses because I didn't agree with what they were doing on Steem, nor with how they handled themselves. It had absolutely nothing to do with whether I support centralization or decentralization.)

Perhaps, the original post can be edited to reflect the assets that were actually stolen @zzan.witnesses (the intellectual property)?

that would be up to the author.

As for voting against the witnesses due to disagreement with their actions. That is totally within your rights, but, what led to the exclusion list is the belief that voting for the sock puppets was against the best interest of the chain. Had you chose to vote human witnesses other than the consensus witnesses, no one would have dared to dispute that.

The only reason that one of my reasons for leaving Steem isn't about the sock puppets is that there is currently human witnesses looking after the chain ... mostly not people I'd support and trust but they are people who might be able to learn better.

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Dear @shadowspub

Wouldn't you think that if someone is excluding those authors from being part of this airdrop, then content created by those authors should not be used on new chain?

I'm not one of the organizers of the chain, so why they did or did not remove the content. I suspect to do so would actually invite legitimate claims of censorship.

Anyone who doesn't want their content on Hive can remove it. If they need help with RCs to do so, they can contact me and I'll assist with a temporary delegation

I also will offer to help with a temporary delegation if the need arises.

Thank you for your interest. I've talked to them a few times, but they don't have the will to give.