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RE: [Discussion Post] Where do we take STEEM from here? A post for STEEM community discussion

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Focusing on user experience is important. Steemit has been around for a while and has a significant internet presence, and many users have come and gone. User retention is at least as important as adding user accounts through marketing. The truth is Steem does not need a large user base to be successful, it just needs more balanced distribution and an active user base. Technical aspects to scaling are another discussion and I'm not familiar with the technology, but I think improvements have been made within the last year. There is too much to flesh out in this comment, but the main questions for me are:

How can we attract and retain users?
How can we improve distribution?
How can we increase activity?

Some topics that come to mind:

  • user interfaces limited
  • reward pool algorithm punishes small voters and rewards whales
  • curation timing algorithm punishes manual curators and rewards robot voters
  • aggressive downvoting brigades and whale trolls
  • complexity of wallet, keys, currencies, voting power
  • 13 week powerdown
  • natural tendency to reward self and friends, aka circular voting trails
  • confidence in DPOS
  • difficulty creating account
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I agree with this that every user experience should be Nice here without this no improvement visible.

I appreciate the initiative (100 days) taken by @steemitblog to increase the interaction between steemians and posting. It is really a nice thoughts.

My thoughts on prirority wise as below

  1. Steemit website/interface to blockchain should function 24 x 365 days with fast speed. Without this All efforts goes.
  2. Steemit website should be more user friendly and required more function as others have like busy, steempeak etc.
  3. The top trending post not visible more than 7 or 10 days. Currently, top 4-5 post still visible after 28 days gone.
  4. Reward poll should not discourage small voters. Vote should be only depends on SP not like current algorithm, it punishes small voters and rewarded big voters. Curretnly, without reaching a threshold value small voters have not get good value.
  5. Free downvotes should be removed.
  6. Reduce powerdown to 1 week or 3.5 days.
  7. Required many Apps as so many apps moved to other platform Like GINA(notification).
    Currently these points in my points. There are so many points for improvement but we to start from somewhere. So lets us start doing one by one and A day will come then we are at the top.

The top trending post not visible more than 7 or 10 days. Currently, top 4-5 post still visible after 28 days gone.

If I am going to be honest, I have always hated the trending page. Usually the articles there are there because of nepotism rather than quality, and usually the articles there all discuss Steem or crypto. I think stakeholders should make more of an effort to reward content that doesn't pertain to Steem at all because the users they are recruiting have no thought or care for Steem. What they do care for is something. Something which they are passionate about: like art, or horror reviews, or cooking recipes. By rewarding content that shows commitment, but doesn't discuss Steem or crypto, we have much more of a chance of attracting (and retaining) new users.

Personally, I think they should add a page that brings up random articles. I think a lot of articles get in trouble because they might demonstrate quality, but the payout isn't a lot initially. After a day or 2, it would be a surprise for someone to see a low payout article while browsing in a lot of the current categories. I think adding a category that displays articles randomly would help combat this. Maybe also make it easier to look for articles that users are interested by adding search filters. For instance, which categories you want for the article, how long it should be, what the author's reputation should be, etc.

Reward poll should not discourage small voters. Vote should be only depends on SP not like current algorithm, it punishes small voters and rewarded big voters. Curretnly, without reaching a threshold value small voters have not get good value.

I would like to know how you think the reward pool should be improved.

Reduce powerdown to 1 week or 3.5 days.

I don't really think they want to implement this change until the hive community has gone. If they implemented that now, the whole hive community would dump all of their stake at once.

A trending page not entirely focused on meta Steem will be a healthy sign. I think search filters to find content are extremely important. Following single accounts is primitive, and while communities seem like a step in the right direction, they have little volume and I'm not even sure how to use them. Using multiple checkboxes and keywords is a fairly standard way to enable discovery of content, such a purchasing a product on Amazon. I know this has been discussed for years, but either Steemit doesn't see it as an issue or they think other projects have higher priority. If you are interested in Python programming, you might be able to reappropriate this livestream program to randomly select a recent post by printing the output to a text file and using the random function.

Personally, I think they should add a page that brings up random articles. I think a lot of articles get in trouble because they might demonstrate quality, but the payout isn't a lot initially. After a day or 2, it would be a surprise for someone to see a low payout article while browsing in a lot of the current categories. I think adding a category that displays articles randomly would help combat this. Maybe also make it easier to look for articles that users are interested by adding search filters. For instance, which categories you want for the article, how long it should be, what the author's reputation should be, etc.

I agree with you But their should be some logic and it should be accepted by whole community. I have no major idea about it. I just want to say that some informative things related to Steemit function/announcement should always comes in top trending, So that each steemians can see those things and get updated. I only see this uses.

I would like to know how you think the reward pool should be improved.

The individual vote value doesn't depends on post payout, like current system/version is doing. It should be like
1 SP vote value say 0.01 STU
100 SP vote value say 1 STU
10000 SP vote value say 10 STU
Vote value should be liner and doesn't depends on post payout. I think it should be like previous HF version. Conclusion : I did not like current individual vote value system, which depends on post payout. If post value is less than X value, then vote value is very less and if post value is more than X value, then vote value is more. If have to provide every steemians same vote value according to their SP (linear).

I don't really think they want to implement this change until the hive community has gone. If they implemented that now, the whole hive community would dump all of their stake at once.

Let them go in one shot, it is good for rest steemians those believe in steem. If they will get their whole steem in one shot say in 3.5 days, they will sell all steem and convert into Hive then What will happens? Steem price go to bottom say 0.01$ that good for us. They will not get the good return of steem, if they want then sell their steem at low price. We can buy these steem at very good price and powerup.
After they gone steem price again rise according to demand. It can go upto moon.
Why we want to provide them good return of steem, when they don't like it. Sell them at low price. We will see, how they get the courage to sell at 0.001$. Get them out from here, if they want.

I agree that a lower STEEM price is healthy to improve distribution and author rewards should be linear and not dependent on total payout. The official post doesn't explain very well, but basically any content below a few dollars is punished and everything above that threshold is increasingly rewarded.This encourages users to vote only the highest paying content for the rewards. Anything below a few pennies is known as "dust" and completely negated. Thus, the vast majority of financial rewards are claimed by large wallets and robot voters.

Yes, you understand correct. The old steemians (Big stake holder SP) don't wants to earn other steemians. They make the system to their earning only, not for all steemians points. So, now they moved from here and let distribute the reward pool to every steemias in equal parts proportionate to their SP. We have to encourage every steemians not discourage them. Each steemians has their value in this platform to bring it to moon. Thanks for understanding the point.

And do not forget the fact that Steemit is not the Steem blockchain. Just/only a dApp on the Steem blockchain.
There are many dApps on the Steem blockchain.
For example Steem Monsters/Splinterlands, which is nowadays one of my favorite blockchain games.