About downvoting

I suppose all of you know about upvoting. Upvoting is what gives a post monetary value. Upvotes are to distinguish valuable content from... less valuable content.

Downvoting is equally important for the #steem platform. If ypu think of upvoting as the carrot, then downvoting is the whip. The purpose of downvoting is to discourage malevolent content, content that is bad for steem as a whole.

How to

Every post has a small flag at its upper right, sometimes with a number alongside it. Click on the flag to downvote the post. The number, if present, indicates how many downvotes the post already has.

What to

The most important kind of bad content is SPAM. It clutters up the list of posts, without adding value to the steem network. Please help downvote SPAM to keep our platform clean!

SPAM comes in different varieties, and sometimes it is even difficult to recognize.

  • A post may appear to have interesting content, but is crossposted over many tags that have no relationship whatsoever with the post's content. That's tag-spamming. If you browse steem by tags you don't want to see that funny movie under "cooking", "investments" and "the-hack", for example.
  • There are automated scripts in the wild that simply repost articles from news sites etc. into steem. That's not the point of steem. If people want to read a newsfeed they can go to the news site directly. Note that I'm talking about unsystematic copying here. Comments on articles, or a selection of articles may be OK - YMMV.
  • Closely related to the latter is plagiarism. People want to post as much as possible to make money, and because their creativity has its limits, they copy content from elsewhere. The general opinion within the steem community appears to be that copied content is OK, as long as due credits are given plus a link to the original source. I think copying stuff is generally bad, but that's just my opinion.

There's other types of content to downvote, too, of course. Opinions may differ, depending on your cultural background. In general, try to be liberal, but also be considerate.

  • Sexual content should be tagged "nsfw", because steem is easily accessible to minors, and may be read by people in their workplace. If you come across sexual content that is not tagged nsfw, please downvote it.
  • Hate speech is a tricky subject. A line has to be drawn somewhere between the right to free speech, and the rights of others affected by such speech. Read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights when in doubt, and downvote accordingly.

What not to

Since downvoting is a kind of censorship, it must be applied with care.

  • Do not downvote content that expresses a different opinion than your own. Its author has the same right to free speech that you have. Feel free to post your own opinion in a comment instead, or in a separate post.
  • Do not downvote content simply because you dislike its author. In particular, don't downvote a post just because its author downvoted one of yours. That's childish.
  • Remember that many (most?) steem users are not (english) native speakers. Don't downvote posts for bad spelling and/or grammar. We're not at school here.
  • Some content may be illegal in your jurisdiction. Remember that steem is a global network, and that the content in question may be legal elsewhere. IANAL, but downvoting such content may get you in trouble, because the downvote is proof that you have seen (and thereby downloaded) that content.
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join our #doyourpart movement if you are not involved already. We keep Steemit clean from content that is unappropriate :)

Just got downvoted by a whale bot that seems to downvote everyone that replies to a certain author. Pretty disgusting system :(

That was one of my downvotes as well. Stay away from the Germans! lol and also H*****'s page. I thought I had warned you about Mr H. B*****'s people/bots will get you just for commenting. :(. I commented on a bitcoin article once there and got nailed.

I don't know what the impact of such a downvote is. I saw that it was a 10% downvote, but he got A LOT of Steem Power.

It mainly hurts your reputation. I think I would be at 60 or higher if I never got any downvotes. It does take away your earnings as well though.

Takes earnings away for that one post?

Yes just that one post or comment that they downvote.

hi @cyrano.witness

you wrote:

If ypu think of upvoting as the carrot, then downvoting is the whip.

From my perspective, downvoting on steemit is closer to declaring someone a war than just the whip.
Downvoting someone with more SP for creating shitty content fired back at so many people, that it's scary to use this tool.

Downvoting is a powerful tool being abused left and right and I would never recommend to use if you're not ready for a flag war.

@frankvvv
I agree with you :/

need to add some options in that flag like copyright & downvote that can help a lot :)

Concur. There should be some options to check for why you think it needs downvoting. This would also help the author.

Why does downvoting not just do the opposite of upvotiong,
so to post loses revenue and popularity,
according to your sp and your frequency.

Dead Links

  • I found articles with dead links which is annoying, or:

Outdated content

  • Content that is no longer correct (facts have changed)
    Read through detailed articles such as tech. tutorials to find a hint in one comment at the very end of the comments list, that this is no longer valid. There are articles about Steem-Mining, for example, detailed explanations, but Steem mining does no longer exist! - This is really annoying that articles can't be updated or smoothly deleted :(

I don't want to flag someone as spammer who put a lot of honest effort into writing an article when it is only time that depricated the information.

I don't want to click on Flag/downvote only for outdated content, but what is the consequence? Thousands of people will read an follow instructions of how to mine Steem for example, until they get get so frustrated until by accident they find an information that mining is no longer working for Steem?

I guess this is a MUST upgrade necessary (improvement) for Steem in the future, what do u think?

Thank you! Steem needs more posts like this, explaining the mechanics.

Thanks for sharing this, the ideas around down voting have not really been talked about, and I seem to remember someone saying it was bad to do. I couldn't figure out why but I figured this was a beta and eventually we'd get clarification. Just curious? Does down voting affect your voting Power?

#doyourpart

Downvoting consumes power just like upvoting, yes.

I thought as much, thanks for verifying. This is gold information now, and especially when the gates open and the horde arrives

That is unfair, so if i find plagiarized content or spam and flag it I end up loosing voting power? this seems like a way to demotivate reporting bad content.

What are your thoughts on this idea?

https://steemit.com/steemit/@taz/the-future-of-migrate2steem-com

If we follow your guide, would you downvote, or encourage such an endeavour? Personally I think it's great.

Migrating blogs into steem would mean more original content. Sounds good to me.

Thank you for that something I can now cross if my to know list.