RE: Steemit: The Anti-Social Network
I'm still trying to figure out what they think is spam, evidently it is any social type of comment. Advertising things like crypto coins to users is not spam, (air drops - they are all advertisements so to me SPAM). Advertising their bid bots, advertising I voted for you at full power ain't i cool, hey try partico, or actifit, or this comment reminder system, or try this app, or this program, or hey, look at my steemhunt post or my dlike post.
I'm sorry can someone explain how those are not spam, and why the hell would a company want to advertise on steem when they have steem hunt and dlike and whatever the next advertise for us and we might give you a $0.001 reward in steem. Or we might give you an upvote at 1% power that is valued at - - -$0.000 - - -
None of HF20 was done to prevent Spam, it was done seemingly to increase spam, and to make it where only votes would count for anything. They do not want people to be able to post, cut down on the postings from the smaller people and then they would be forced to come back and vote on our content because the new user can not post nor comment only vote.
They have always had a spam control on steemit, it is called the mute button. I have a lot of bots and boosters on mute because I got tired of the big stupid comments from them. If people used the Mute, the bots and spam would simply go away.
I agree completely @bashadow... And yes I totally agree that the "spam" is a red herring that makes the story sound good and reasonable. The bottom line is this is once again about making sure the people at the top (whales) get the power to make more money (leasing their RCs). If they can lease them to organizations and make money, then you can bet that is what they are going to do. I have seen the comments from some of them and they are basically giddy with joy over their newfound income stream.
Of course they don't care if all of us leave, we are basically a nuisance to them anyways. I am positive that the number of new accounts will plummet under this new situation, so it will be as it is. I will keep my friends and keep dealing with you all, but my faith in the platform and the long term quality of the people running it is basically 0.
Always good talking to you @bashadow and I'm looking forward to our games that start here in a week or so (better than this negativity) :)
Spam is a red herring because it's not what the change is intended to deal with. It's the cost of the network, the resources on servers to keep Steem alive. They've moved to pricing them more strictly.
This change is not balanced, as you see, but be clear about it - free accounts are now the lowest priority. If you power up your account don't forget that you still own those tokens.
I'm quietly advocating for change to the current situation anyway.
yes I agree completely with you. The spam issue is a complete red herring. I wish they would stop saying it, because it insults my intelligence too.
I also agree the balance needs to change. I don't have an issue with limiting people's quantity of posts either. What I do have an issue with is comments. ON A SOCIAL NETWORK people should be able to freely share their opinions and thoughts in the comment section. Otherwise, we cease to be a general social platform and just a niche community that does a few things like mine the bots.
From the blockchain's perspective a comment is a post, they're functionally equivalent. But as you've highlighted they are not the same from a user point of view.
You've given me something to think about here. Maybe there's a side chain or even off chain solution for some of that. But because of the post / comment equivalency for the moment this is the way it's going to be unless people power up.
Btw, do you have links to a few examples where they are saying it's because of spam?
Cool if you can figure out a way to solve that issue. They are 2 completely separate things as far as a user is concerned for sure!
If you find a solution, please let me know. I would be thrilled to see that happen and would of course want to know about it.
Regarding the places where "they are saying its because of spam"... I assume you want to see some of the officials make statements regarding that... Here is one just from this post from the #1 man himself @ned:
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If you want more examples then let me know, its the standard reply from the people that defend the system. And don't get me wrong, I don't like spam either and I think some of these changes are great. But if we don't find a solution to letting people comment freely (or at a minimum reasonably), then all the good changes will not be able to be witnessed by more than a handful.
Thank you for your understanding of the issue, that is definitely cool of you to "get it"!
Yep, always a positive side to look at. Some good people, no need to pull the negative people. I would love to see the RC's do a sudden change, the witnesses no longer have control of the RC's. RC's have been removed from the consensus process, yet no one will say who decides the correct RC levels now. The only response to that question is "we do, all of us", but then again i was told by a few I don't know what i am talking about so, I guess I don't. Only the important whales know, or have a right to voice their opinions on the RC side of the issue.
if you don't know what you are talking about, then I'm totally lost. :P
I don't see how they are ever going to have a successful social platform that limits people's free speech.