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RE: Are we only here to feed the narcissists?

in #steemit8 years ago

You have got me all wrong. If you think I am bragging about $30k, you don't know me. What I am, is a marketing expert. Headlines like what I put up got TONS of interest in Steemit. And, I mean tons. My FB feed is all Steemit now... 5 days ago there was none. People like to hear the 'get rich quick' story, so I bring them in with that... and then hit them with all the other reasons you should be on here... including in my post today where I said you should be on Steemit even if there was no $ involved. I have quickly become the biggest promoter of Steemit... I was on national radio in the US for nearly two hours talking about what an amazing platform this is. Do you really think I have been a net negative for Steemit? If so, you clearly don't understand marketing. Or maybe you do understand marketing as you've made some pretty good money by just bashing me...

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There you go again, full of yourself and being narcissistic.

You're doing a good job on getting people in - like said in my article - so no bashing involved here. Just advice why many people agree that you need to change the attitude since you act as a rolemodel for many new users that will be dissapointed when they don't get payed the big dollars like you did.

We share many life experiences, i'm a self made man myself. But, i stay humble. Always welcome to have a little chat by the way :-)

@dollarvigilante last Post about getting rich in Steemit had a clickbait Title but tons of very useful Information in it. And it was very clear about to not get dissapoited when you dont make much Money with your first Posts.

Well but really.

What you are saying is in my eyes a bit ...

let me try to find an analogy.

DollarV playes Lotto and wins 7.000.000 USD
Now DV makes a big social media campagin, that he won the lottery and everybody should play Lotto.
Ok, so everybody starts playing, NOBODY wins.
So in this Lotto Analogy, the people still keep playing because they know, the chance to win are not so high.

If people come to Steemit and think that everybody can make a killing just joining and posting that he just had a smoke and a bagel and spilled coffee on his jeans, well than i have to say, these people are just stupid, because nothing in life is free, and these kind of people will never make it on any platform anyway.

So i say, get everybody in, the ones not making it, will be washed out again. but that's fine !

"Can we all just get along" - This meme is certainly returning with a vengeance at this time ô¿ô
Let's try and keep the "wealth" aspect on the back burner for a while. Facebook went public at ~$30.00 and dropped to ~ $17.00 in the months that followed. Everyone bashed FB at the lows and proclaimed it to be doomed. Meanwhile FB climbed back up past the IPO price, the Winklevoss twins settled with FB / Zuckerberg .... and did what?? Bought the schitt out of bitcoin!!! Ain't Karma grand? Oh, yeah, FB is close to an all time high right now......

Question? If Donald Trump came here to steemit and did a somewhat epic intro and Tweeted it to the world identifying steemit, how much $USD would that post make? How many people of ALL ilks would join this community? Personally I think Jeff Berwick is a pretty awesome gutsy guy. But he would be a smallfry if Jay leno / Jimmy Fallon / Bernie Sanders / Ron Paul / Steven Hawking showed up here ~~

Soooo have we got the "big bucks to the newcomers" syndrome out of our system? 'Cause I have a feeling some mega rich posters are going to make some serious coin in the near future ~~

i love this discussion .. :) I've upvoted your posts before @dollarvigilante as well i've voted your posts @steve-walschot. IMO you both are bringing much value into our system anyone of you in his own unique way.

  • One brings value in terms of PR and Marketing
  • Another brings value into with developing skills
  • and a 3rd person is able to write just amazing stories

At the end of this day .. we are all here to achieving the same, don't we? Do make a good living from what we are liking to do most and to work on issues this world is facing together, like censorship, surveillance, just to name a few.

If we are able to give us our hands and moving forward as an alliance to make STEEM
what it is to supposed to be ...STEEM will be able get really successful!


What have you done for Steemit? I upvoted this post btw. :P

just take a look at steves blog when u get time to - he is working on a payment solution to integrate SBD payments easily at your site, wordpress blog and so on. IMO really a project u should watching tough.

I think these kinds of discussion shape the platform and the users. its a win-win.
Many users realize through the discussions, that we are at the tipping point of building the future of Social Media here !

Well said. These are healthy discussions for the benefit of the system.

Yes, is it not refreshing in this day and age?

We can have discussions without worrying about triggering people and, god forbid, offending them.

Well said

OH , How do I enjoy such healthy discussions helping to shape this community. My comment follows . my down-vote as well and why

Man, did I wake up to something this morning. Didn't think the comments discussion would pick it up like this and it's awesome. Love it when they do!!

@dollarvigilante: i completely understand where you're coming from. Besides /sex/, money is the best bait nowadays. You discovered Steemit and now you do the next natural move every steemian does: doing your thing to tell others about it. Nothing wrong with that. Everyone who's jealous on your earnings should do everything you did pre-Steemit before complaining that they didn't get 15k on their introduseyourself post.
Also, Steve wasn't bashing you. He really wasn't. He just put out an opinion that might be going through the minds of many people around here. Nothing wrong with that. Tackling this stuff, being open, transparent and collaborative helps us grow as a community.
Jeff, I thing you're also going through the first week process of every newcomer to Steemit:
You're over-hyped about the possibilities on Steemit and trying to use this momentum to get more people on and get more attention. That's normal. I remember my first week. Had 10h of sleep altogether haha.
I do hope you'll learn from others' experience and jump over the Quitting part. All your work and experience before you found out about Steemit is great and it's great you're here. Keep contributing, promoting Steemit, bringing even more people and we'll all grow together.
I remember something Dan said in one of the first interviews about Steemit:

One of the goals of Steemit is to be a place where valuable content can bring a constant revenue for authors and contributors.

So everyone will 'port' their blogs, shows, art, music etc. to Steemit and keep them here only. That is the ultimate goal I think. Independence. And we're gradually growing towards it.

What have you done for Steemit? I upvoted this post btw. :P

If you look through his profile you can see that he is developing for Steemit as well! Steempay.io is what he is working on. :)

Now don't be mean now. He's using your name By make some money too. None the less your bringing many new talent. Your success travels with you. So again big fan keep it up.

Both sides with interesting arguments here.

I guess time will tell, keep posting the good content @dollarvigilante :-)

...marketing expert...biggest promoter...national radio...not narcissist...

(This is sarcasm)

Or maybe you do understand marketing as you've made some pretty good money by just bashing me...

You call it bashing, and I call it venting frustration and you are the poster boy and lightning rod for that frustration. You are someone we can both love, and love to hate. I don't think you are a net negative at all, and I'm sure many others don't feel that way either. You are the hot topic of discussion so naturally you're going to get some heat for what they think you are doing that isn't positive for Steemit.

You're doing a fine job overall, in my opinion, and due to your influence I think many of us want you to be able to do it even better. So you get some bashing/venting sent your way * shrug * Comes with the territory doesn't it?

Anyway, I'm glad you're aboard and look forward to more of your posts. Hopefully with less - not demanding none - of the braggadocio that makes the site look like a 'get rich quick' scam.

Thanks for listening

I did read your post today...... Kind of why I responded about how you are marketing the same way steemit has been marketing

Regardless of my view on the marketing, it is hypocritical you get called out for doing the same thing everyone else has.

Hi, in my opinion I think @dollarvigilante is right, I would define it as Affiliate marketing and @dollarvigilante is in this case acting as an Affiliate attracting a lot of customers to this platform, which for me is very good.