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RE: Joining in on the self voting on comments fray...
Yes. Exactly. It is very disturbing. I am thinking it may be worth resurrecting the two rewards pool idea. One for comments, one for posts. If comments for example were 20% of the total reward pool (maybe less even) and posts were 80% then at least there would be a stop gap/firewall to stop this illness from doing more than 20% damage.
Who'd stop them from spamming new posts and raping it that way, and what would that do with commenting being raped exclusively of posts, as it proposes.
I didn't say it would stop that. It would limit it though so it couldn't spill over to stealing and draining the rest of the pool for posts.
I think the split will work against that, first by making it more lucrative to spam posts instead of comments, and then by making comment rewards more susceptible to being drained, possibly discouraging engagement.
Spam posts we already have mechanisms in place to fight. That hasn't been an issue for a long time. Right now we have comment pool draining everything. I view it as a firewall or a stop gap. Everything you are talking about exists now. I don't see it hurting anything but it can limit the bleeding.
Short of that the community needs to withdraw all support, followers, votes, etc from the people that do it. Let them stand alone. If that doesn't work then we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
I'm saying it will incentivize spamming posts, the equivalent of a cool post comment. We have the same mechanism to deal with spam across the board, comment spamming is just more lucrative now because of visibility issues, fixing that will bring forth post spam, granted it's more visible, it will be more lucrative while some will probably still comment spam and drain the incentive to comment.
How can we see how much the comments and how much the posts are making respectively? I think if we can see how much the average is then maybe we can determine a good split based on that.
I believe tying into the steamdb.com database a report to determine those amounts could be found as you are correct I have no idea where that split should actually be. I provided the 20% / 80% only as a hypothetical example.
It seems that 6.6% of rewards go to commenters and 70.7% go to the authors, curation is more profitable then commenting it seems, 14.2%. A theoretical split would be better at 10-90, these numbers are kinda sad from the point of engagement.
Yeah I am hoping engagement shifts... So based upon today's models that could work. We could also go closer to my 20% / 80% that I made up out of the air and effectively be doubling the ceiling for comment engagement.
Note I really don't want a ceiling. I do think having a firewall to protect different types of activities from each other might be worth doing though.
I personally believe curating pays too much. Yet it is that payout that continues to inspire the truly powerful to keep spreading the wealth. Hopefully not just to themselves.
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