To upvote or not to upvote - that is the question!๐Ÿ™ƒ

in #steemit โ€ข 7 years ago

It's a funny old thing, but although I've had quite a few replies to some of my posts (such as https://steemit.com/trading/@xaero1/ethereum-ta-where-was-the-triangle .. nearly 500 comments!), not all of them seem to be related to technical analysis! (Btw, thanks for all the replies!!!!!)

So, I'm scratching my head a bit about why this could be...but maybe it's in some small way related to the fact I upvoted some posts of people who replied previously?๐Ÿ˜‹(after reading and liking their posts, I hasten to add!๐Ÿ˜€)

Now, this is all well and good ;) - but it does make it a bit difficult to see the wood for the trees!!!!!

So, I thought I would write a post outlining some options that came to mind (Originally, it was going to be just: vote, or not vote - but I thought of some more.. :) )

Option 1: upvote!
Continue to randomly upvote posts if I like them (assuming I get a chance to go through the backlog of all the replies I haven't even got a chance to read yet!)

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Option 2: don't upvote!
Don't upvote any requested posts (even if I happen to have already seen, and liked them!)

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Option 3: use a bot!
Either write my own bot or delegate to an existing one. Probably not going to be very intelligent decision making however! (Rather like early computer game AI ... I.e. just use the rand() function! ;) )

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Option 4: rent out/give out my steem power!
If I rent out and/or delegate out my steem power (quite likely to more responsible voters, too!), then I can simply say: Sorry, gov! I have no money steem power to vote with! Also, it could be a way earn a better return, if there's enough demand๐Ÿ˜

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Option 5: ragequit, sell all my steem power, and go back to Facebook!
The drawback with this option is all my jokes will typically go down like a lead ballon, and my posts would likely get no replies (and of course earn no money!)๐Ÿ˜ข

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Ok, maybe that one is too violent - so - here's another ;p

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So, which option should it be? Or maybe thereโ€™s one I havenโ€™t thought of yet!

DISCLAIMER: This is not a serious post! Well, ok, itโ€™s semi-not-serious - I am really interested in any views / comments / helpful suggestions about this issue!

The other thing is that in my articles about TA, I requested a few times that it would be helpful if replies could stay โ€˜on-topicโ€™ ;) So, logically, I cannot say that any such similar replies are โ€˜off-topicโ€™ in relation to this post! Does this count as irony? ๐Ÿ˜‚ (In other words, maybe this 'meta' post could partially serve as the very answer to the question it poses (but Iโ€™m not entirely sure on this!)๐Ÿ˜€)

P.S. I just wanted to say a big thanks to @karensuestudios for the awesome work in creating my avatar (Thanks!!)
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TEEHEHEHE aww! This avatar fits perfectly with your post! BTW... I think you are using the old file I gave you. Lines are not as sharp ;) Thanks for the shout out Jon Snow! If you used the "Winter is coming..." it would have been a forshadow to your solution. hahah

Before delving into solving your problems... OMG I can't believe your GF dies!!! WTF!?! I'm so sad... I wanted Jon Snow to be with her! ahhh ahhh... no one is safe in GoT! WHY!?!!??!?!

So back to it, problems of a lord.... You came up with so many options. I didn't even know that there were so many options. I think you like to curate, so auto-voting would eliminate part of the fun.... although when you do go radio silent you could put it on auto vote until you return. You could always do a hybrid of it if you wanted to alleviateโ€‹ duties but still have the ability to manually curate.

Deligating power seems like an interestingโ€‹ idea, although I think you do love to curateโ€‹ and you are so active, so you don't need to give it to anyone else. But if you are trying to make people your knights.. I get it... LOL build your army!

I think as a lord of Steemit, you have a great duty to curate good content, so I say upvote whoever you like, you seem to have great taste, but don't encourage the spamming, unless the spammers have great content! :) I guess one way to think about it is... if you encourage spammers by upvoting them, then long term it could bring down the value of Steemit, because you would be pardoning spammer and letting them think that this is the right way use Steemit. Instead, you want to encourage people to make real connections and write quality stuff. So I would say its your duty to maintain Quality control!

Anyways watcha think?

ALSO! Do you play Settlers? (saw that was in your gif) I LOVE that game... and I'm pretty good (I usually win :P)

ย 7 years agoย (edited)

Ok, Dr. @karensuestudios, what should I do if someone adds a comment along the lines of
'It's been three days, why haven't you voted for my posts?' - not just to this post (say) - but to every single post I've made, many of which were supposed to be technical/serious posts!! ๐Ÿ˜€

For some reason I'm reminded of the lines 'It's been six months and still no word ....... and all I wanted was a lousy letter of recall an upvote' ;p ;p ;p ;p ;p But maybe 'I meant to reply earlier, but I've just been busy... ' ๐Ÿ˜€

Disclaimer: This is attempted satire, I do not endorse any comments from this video!๐Ÿ˜‚

This is hilarious man haha! :D I must say, I enjoy the fun you have in some of your comments! It's awesome lol

Thanks ๐Ÿ˜…

"Shut your mouth when I'm talking to you! You hear me? Answer Me!"...LOL.

You should vote however your heart desires and have fun busting balls while doing it! ;-)

On a serious note, I still manually curate but it's almost like a job at this point. I've delegated a little to the minnowsupport project. If you do decide to delegate I'd suggest there.

ย 7 years agoย (edited)

Heh.... I signed up to have some fun upvoting cool posts I happened to notice!....not like being back at my old job and answering emails the whole time :)

Thanks - yes, could be an option!

can you help my intro :) @xaero1

ย 7 years agoย (edited)

I already upvoted your previous intro post I think, and i believe you're not generally expected to do intro posts many times? ๐Ÿ˜€ But hey, have an upvote anyway for being first to reply to my 'Stan' video comment satire ;)

My intro that I felt yesterday failed, so I tried again, but thanks for helping me

can you help me too master @xaero1 ;)
i need your help @xaero1

OH JON SNOW... YOU KNOW NOTHING!!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Lol๐Ÿคฃ

btw I saw the Jon Snow became the leader of the wall... DAMN. Moving up in life! Bastard to leader! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Sound like you are about 5 seasons behind Karen!

Your post is a lot of amazing and make me like you, but if you still remember me, I have very long to know you and I have long followed your post, but now you have started to forget with me and ignore my posts and comments to You, do i deserve it from my idol

No, it's just statistics: since I'm following you, every now and then I should see one of your posts!

AHAHAHAH! omg! I've actually never seen this music video... so old school ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Maybe we should be calling you Eminem.... you seem to have a lot in common! hahahhaha

"P.S. we should be together tooo".... AHHAHAH... it's like the poems they write you.

I'm dying... ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Yeah, I'm not in any way trying to liken steemit to that video btw!.....just basically an excuse to post that link as I love Dido's music ๐Ÿ˜‚
Just like I'll use any excuse to post a gif of daenarys!๐Ÿ˜‚

to upvote or not vote
i want you upvote me :D :D
can you do this to me @xaero1

HAHAHA! But you are living parallel lives. Now you know what its like to be Eminem. ๐Ÿ˜‚

Is rap your favorite type of music?

Lol, the opposite! But this one is great even if not my genre, but the singer on that track is Dido who did the original non-rap version. I like dance music. But maybe no longer as manic as your happy hardcore stuff you used on that video๐Ÿคฃ

Hahahah I use them because they are copy right free! Although I do love really happy upbeat songs! Awww dance music is good! Very fun! The US has a lot of cool music festivals! ๐Ÿ˜Š SXSW is my favorite one. Hehe

Btw guess what I'm currently watching?

btw. I'm on chat! Find me! :)

It's really very interesting post and useful for me, because I am new member in steemit, and I see you have many fans here, and your post also many comment and you give vote for that comment in your post, can you help I also like the others, I want you to vote my post to encourage me in playing steemit and share motivation @xaero1

ย 7 years agoย (edited)

Sorry for the wrong file! Not the real Picasso....ooops! ๐Ÿ˜”
Also, I hadn't figured out the solution, so I thought 'I know nothing' was more appropriate๐Ÿ˜‚

What is this autovote you speak of? And also, how can 'autovote' assess the quality of a post? ;P

Thanks for your comment - stuff to think about!
Settlers nope haven't heard of it (but I'm not really in the loop these days unfortunately )

hahah no worries.. You'll just have to redeem yourself in future posts. tehehe!

HAHAH true... That's why you only use autovoting when you are away for a couple days, and only put it on quality people who consistently put out quality stuff. This way you don't miss out on curating opportunities :)

OMG you haven't played Settlers??? It's only the BEST board game ever! Well... sometimes it can ruin friendships because it's so intense... but still!

Also are you thinking about lending out SP? How does that work?

our poor @xaero1 here ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ

This is is why you need to be more @diabolika sometimes, ๐Ÿ˜ˆ.

Your wallet has become an inbox! ๐Ÿ˜ก

Hahhaa oh @xaero1 is a sucker! Too nice! I tell him all the time ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ but we still love him.

Me and you can be his gaurd dog... I told someone once that I'd bite them ๐Ÿบ

But he's being stern, so I'm super super proud of him! โค

so I'm super super proud of him! โค

You make it sound like he's my cat lol sweet but feisty ๐Ÿ˜ˆ ๐Ÿ˜ผ

HAHAHAH! Meow! Ahhh maybe that's his spirit animal! ๐Ÿ˜ผ

Ok, I'm too late here but I don't want to hang out here anymore especially when I read comments calling him master @xaero1? Lol wtf! ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

Done here! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Hahaha well, if he doesn't respond, they call him evil and say thwy are crying! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Dont worry about spam,, bacause they are love you and they are think you are angel on steemit,,
I agree with your oponion

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Haha is this good ๐Ÿ˜‚ Look at my post๐Ÿ˜„ @xaero1
and do not forget to follow me @wawan1 ๐Ÿ˜…

I have two blank posts, whether you help me again ,, I guess you like colorchallenge ,,

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Colour challenges with a girl in a dress - yes๐Ÿ˜†

Yes,, why you not upvote my post๐Ÿ˜“๐Ÿ˜“
I wait you boy
@xaero

Many post has lol ๐Ÿค•๐Ÿค•
Keep look there..
@xaero1

Recharging my steem power right now. May look at requests tomorrow, when it's back to 100% :)

okay nothing but for a little bit so it does not look empty๐Ÿ’—
@xaero

i see you give some vote to others ,, while my article is not you give price๐Ÿ˜ƒ ,, this is my participation with you hhhhh lol
@xaero1

Im so sad,, not get vote from you

You are good man and my hero
@xaero1

Please my message in this post: 'I'm gonna quit for a while! ', so I won't be able to upvote any more requests from anyone. I'd like but I just get too many. Not sure how it even started, but it's not how steemit works, unfortunately.

Owh saya mengerti ,, tidak apa-apa saya mengerti anda ,, anda ingin membagi untuk semuanya namun tidak bisa ,, itu ide yang bagua ,, tahan steem power untuk mendapat yang kuat ,, saya rasa itu ide yang sangat cerdas ,, Saya memilih 50% saja untuk malam ini ,, bisa terima wajah anda ,, karena saya tidak bisa tau bagaimana bentuk wajah anda hehehehee
@xaero1

Right, I can't upvote every post. Maybe I will upvote another of your posts in the future....the one I upvoted previously I thought was really good.

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This is not a serious post! Well, ok, itโ€™s semi-not-serious - I am really interested in any views / comments / helpful suggestions about this issue!

So here's my semi-not-serious reply: My friend "surferbotty" is going to help me out with my upvotes starting from Monday. So while I surf waves (in the real life's Ocean) he surfes through steemit's content and upvotes my friends :-) We've got a deal that he only accounts for 80% of my VP, so I have still the opportunity to spontaneously upvote whatever appears in front of my surfboard...

Sometimes we can't dance on all of the parties at the same time.

Maybe that's a good solution..... delegate some of my SP to be sensible curators; and keep some for myself for my irresponsible upvotes (memes, cute selfies, etc)๐Ÿ˜‚

Thanks for you comment!

Haha, yeah you can leave the "serious votes" to your bot and then go crazy with the rest. Good plan! :-))

You right

@xaero

Lol.... have an upvote! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

hahahah.....i liked this; especially option 5, lol
Option 4 is also good; you can delegate your steem power to someone cute :P
Personally, I like to vote on high-quality posts, but I like to do that for people I know on Steemit; It is because I am very new, and in the process of increasing my steem power.

ย 7 years agoย (edited)

'Increasing your steem power' cool ๐Ÿ˜Ž
Yes, option 5 was really the joke option....Facebook is rubbish๐Ÿ˜‰

I like to vote on high quality posts too! Just sometimes I get sidetracked

I think you can vote on 20 posts per day right? So we do not have the option anyway to 'like (upvote)' each and every post like we do on FB.

Hahahaha I will say no to option 5 . Option 1 is ok if you have whom to delegate the power to however as I indicated in my post( ๐Ÿ˜‚ feel free to see it for tips) it can lead to abuse if it lands on the desk of a devil advocate (haha except me ๐Ÿ˜‹). I guess you can also consider option 1 which is more ok but you might miss out your top and dedicated people (which is essential for strategic success online ๐Ÿ˜‹ ). Option 2 is good ie avoid all those F4F , Please vote or I die and vote for vote junkies -in extreme cases, warn them and if they continue then you reserve the right to flag (again I indicated option for help in my blog post feel free to see it ๐Ÿ˜€)
Bot is another way to use your Steem power and you can delegate some to minnowsupport (good ROI) or even create your own whaleshare project (good ROI) therefore have the opportunity for daily ROI. Good post indeed, upped and I am glad to see your post again.

Awesome comment (as ever!) thanks๐Ÿ˜„

welcome bud, I am looking forward to seeing your posts...hope youยดve not run out of steam


My posts can motivate you...haha. Keep up the great posts.

Wow I missed all those great posts of yours. Maybe I just need to unfollow everyone else!๐Ÿ˜‚
Resteemed! Thanks!๐Ÿ˜„

The same here too, I miss your crypto analysis and will continue sending in constructive and unbiased posts of our dear steemit to motivate you to start writing again Haha. Thanks a lot for the upvotes and resteem (I woke up with a big smile and know that the magic was from you...hiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ).
Remember my offer of free cold beer and Nurnberger bradwurst when steem reaches 20 to 100USD by fall of next year? it is in fact, still valid !!!!

You two are very close. I am touched you are compact like this. Hopefully wrote we can be familiar like this๐Ÿ˜… @xaero1

Haha..... but it's the content that I like to read!
Subjects such as steem is really undervalued, backed up with arguments - I'd upvote anyone who could write this so well ๐Ÿ˜„

Hehe good that. I also really like about music and dancing only I can not dance ๐Ÿ˜… @xaero1

WoWa!
Cool! Your a GOT fan I see! Me too!
I still think its the best show ever made!
So on a "slightly" more serious note ;-)> ur posts raises some good question.
Though as with all good answers there are MANY factors!
So FIRST off #5 is a HORRIBLE IDEA! as I am sure you already know (hopefully or I loose all respect and thrill I am getting out of finding your profile....)
#1 I think its always great to up vote posts that you legitimately like. Because you are CASTING your VOTE for the content you want to see more of and or the people you feel deserve to be supported!
This is the best way besides the fact that there are SOOO many posts and you only have so little time to actually go through so many posts.....
So that means that option #2 is an option but makes the least sense besides #5 OBVIOUSLY! if your on Steemit you should vote and you should vote for what you like/support. I don't think you should vote for people just because they message you or comment and I also don't think you should up vote just because someone isn't making much. It should be because its legitimately good and you support it.
Now option #3 is a decent option especially if you don't have time to vote as you can set an auto up vote for the profiles you feel you like the most or are most deserving and you will be able to support them while getting some curation rewards.
Though following a curation trail would actually be the way to make the MOST off of voting. "Expert" curators are abel to vote on the right posts at the right time to get maximum curation rewards. If you want maximum curation rewards then go this route as you will not likely be able to get the results of an "expert" curator. However the down side is that you now have a lot of voting power going to posts you may not have actually up voted on your own....
Option 5 is somewhat similar to following a trail as if you delegate your power (AT LEAST ITS BEING USED) but again votes will go to accounts or posts you may not choose your self and you can GUARANTEE at least a little bit of bias and selfishness to whoever is delegated power.
SO as you can see there is NO perfect or right answer and I could go on but that is some insight into your options and things to consider. Would be happy to further a discussion with you should you use desire.
SteemON!

ย 7 years agoย (edited)

Thanks for your reply!

I really know what the right option is in my mind, and it's to upvote posts only based on content and not requests. Option 2! But it's difficult! ๐Ÿ˜€

P.S. yes, Game of thrones is the best show ever made, and I would say the current season is easily the best one ever too!!!!! :D

WHAT?!?!??!?!
I have NOT seen the new season yet! Im not a GOT geek but I do think its the best show ever and I really should watch the new season. Especially if its the BEST one!

Yes I agree option 2 is the best option. No need to feel guilty not voting for beggars. There will always be more of them.

Great to meet you. Hope to see you round soon!

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