I applaud you for being able to sit and talk with the opposite side. In my experience, the opposite side delights in vehemently attacking the very things I hold dear rather than explaining their own view of things. With my own viewpoint ignored, too, I have stopped trying. Only by a mutual-exchange of information can progress be achieved. Life is too short to do otherwise, and most people nowadays don't care what a woman in her sixties thinks, anyway. So, many kudos to you for persevering through and finding success with it!