Steemit for videos? Steemtube? [Brainstorm and discussion] 14/09/16
How about a steemit for videos?
You earn steem by getting likes (upvotes) just like here.. this will diversify the currencies uses over a number of social platforms.. its also harder to plagiarize videos without getting noticed..this will bring a whole lot of vloggers to the scene.
Storing & serving video data on a massive scale is an expensive problem, one that has youtube itself running at a loss even with their new subscription models,so lets put that aspect in the hard basket.
However If we're not storing the video data, and we're just referencing it - then we already have that system now, and this idea becomes a ui change to focus on videos..
I've actually thought about ways to make this work for a while, and I grabbed the steemvids.com domain to use for something like this when I get time..
I really hope you get some good feedback, but I can't upvote this post since theres really no information here..
How far along are you on this project ? Love to help out in some fashion.
Honestly not far, I only have a placeholder page online for now.
I actually played around with a temporary page for it in the early hours of this morning based on the idea of "popular videos from the last x hours" by extracting urls from posts + using youtube search api which I think could be worth pursuing..
Needs more noggin time to figure out the most efficient way to go about this, with as little overhead as possible
"Now its getting more interesting :) There are a few competitors in the crypto space at the moment for paywalled access to stored content, but I don't see why we couldn't figure out a way to make the idea work in theory even just as an experiment..
I spent some time experimenting with the youtube search api today and theres already a lot of automated spammy marketing videos being churned out daily messing up search results.."
Exactly, content is not always made for user engagement, im sure most videos up there are just used for back-linking and SEO.. that's puts alot of pressure on the servers..
Please do keep me posted with your project!
Good luck!
The Idea is i wanted to generate a discussion (brainstorm) so we can come up with ideas together, since i cant come up with everything, but maybe more of us can. You see, two brains are better than one, and three are better than two and so on.. hence the internet :D
How about having users to use their own servers or have them pay for a small fee for server hosting... have other users rent their space for steem.. while using the same video frames.. so that the website is symmetrical
you're probably thinking that this could possibly cause a limited number of users to participate since not everyone will be willing to dedicate drive space or funds for that
True.. not everyone is going to necessarily participate by uploading videos, you could also rent some spare space for videos and earn steem..
The fact that uploading videos comes with cost could also have a positive side, and that is it will attract more quality content
.. possibly from vloggers, budget movie producers, tutorials makers, basically anyone who is willing to dedicate an investment that could potentially generate fair revenue providing the quality of the content is of good quality.
I just dont understand what the selling point is for uploading video to "steemtube" compared to uploading to youtube/vimeo/ipfs and embedding that video in a steemit post for free.
Ok i see what you mean regarding the first two points, but in regard of quality i was speaking about the type of content that would uploaded to the video platform..you could never know for certain what type of content you will attract unless you try it out.
How about this: A broadcasting / video platform that would encrypt the content and the user would have to pay in steem to unlock it. This could be an interesting niche.. could have all sorts of stuff from budget movies to live broadcasts, to tutorial videos people could make good money off.. you would still be able to vote and comment and still earn too.
Its kind of like flipping youtube on its head.. youtube somewhat charges the content maker (advertising and so on) while providing the content to the user for free...
What you would essentially do is allow people to upload their content entirely free of charge (no advertising, rank will be based on votes to ensure quality) and forcing them to charge viewers even a fraction of a dollar to view their content...
This would encourage people to upload content in order to earn, but also ensure ithe content is of good quality in order to rank well..
this would make a new creation we have never seen before.. a youtube where everyone is participating, while those not uploading would have to pay a fee to view (since they dont have any steem) this would pump good money into the eco system, the more quality content is uploaded on the steemtube site, the whole community benefits..
p.s (followed you)
Now its getting more interesting :) There are a few competitors in the crypto space at the moment for paywalled access to stored content, but I don't see why we couldn't figure out a way to make the idea work in theory even just as an experiment..
I spent some time experimenting with the youtube search api today and theres already a lot of automated spammy marketing videos being churned out daily messing up search results..
because you people could access your video without going through steamit, and the platform would only have quality videos, its a niche... steemit is just more of a forum, it is the crypto twin of reddit, doing the same thing with YouTube or instgram would be interesting
Steemit is just a blockchain viewer for steem (the blockchain behind it) , we already have a few different ways to view it like steemviz,steemcrawl, understeem etc ..
Quality according to who ?
I see the niche for a specialist viewer that display the videos however you wanted, and have them presorted by votes or amount of individuals referencing a specific video etc .. This is actually what I had in mind for steemvids.com
But this still doesn't require videos to go on the blockchain, and users could have videos appear there without ever leaving steemit or even knowing it existed.
This is why I asked specifically:
TLDR: IMHO we have "steemtube" now, all we need is a ui change and some imagination ;)