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RE: Meme the News- 5/16/18 (998k accounts on Steemit. Almost 1M!)
The 'taxation is theft' thing really rubs me the wrong way. It wouldn't be theft if it didn't all go to the military and lining rich pockets would it? It's certainly theft now that we've cut PBS, NPR, EPA, etc. Taxation isn't theft if it goes to infrastructure like it could and should. How would our Dear Leader say... 'Sad!'
Stop paying it and let me know what happens...
I'm not opposed to supporting infrastructre. As it happens roads are cheap. The challenge is that when you're taxed the money is used to pay interest on the debt, and on top of that funds are printed to essentially pay for the services we wanted and many we didn't. Trillions of dollars for wars... who the fuck wants that.
So, if this was a legit infrastructure thing it might be a few grand a year. Instead it's 45% of my income and if I don't pay men with guns hsow up at my house. So, it's theft. Stop forcing other people to pay for the stuff you want even though you think it benefits society. It's not up to you how others should spend their money.
I absolutely agree with you. Taxes currently aren't benefitting society half as much as they could be. My point is that taxation shouldn't be theft, and the idea that the wealthy recently got additional ridiculous tax cuts while our education and health infrastructure struggles is baffling. There are many countries where taxation goes towards the betterment of the society, why can't we?
Greed.
Why should I ever surrender my property to anyone else? Taxes are theft. Voluntarily building community infrastructure is cool, but when it's mandatory under threat of violence that's way bad.
No taxes, no schools, no roads, no firefighters, no safety nets. It's pretty tough to get people to voluntarily build community infrastructure when they've 'made theirs'.
that's a myth. Look before the income tax. All those things already existed. It was done through private decisions and voluntary interaction. What right do you have to force me to pay? Or you and a few friends if you call yourselves government? What right do you have to take my property?
All those things already existed... You can't think of a road that needs repair? A school that can't pay their teachers enough? We can't allocate any fed money to healthcare either (god forbid) hey, lets give it back to Wall Street, Big Pharma, and the Military Industrial Complex! All those other things we need already exist right? Like proper, humane safety nets for the mentally disabled! That's already totally taken care of here, right? Yeah, no. I'm not talking about extorting you for all of your income, or taking your property. And I don't even know why I'm talking to you about it, neither of us call any of the shots here. But I believe that we need a massive tax overhaul that pushes money back into our countries' needs, so that we're not all just pissing away our money that goes to killing innocent people or paying for our Presidents golf vacations.
His point is that if you (or the government) take any money from anyone for any reason without their consent, it is by definition, theft. We can argue whether or not it is necessary for infrastructure, schools, etc. But it is still theft.
Yeah, understood. I'm not trying to argue over semantics, it just seems that if our tax dollars were truly working for America, we wouldn't have as much of a problem consenting to taxes right?