the bitcoin war by the OOH : extracts on spam about v30 to v32
it's a great man, imho currently so the OOH must destroy him. all to the lowest standard common denominator, michael flynn and cherge way to shine, destroy others.
nice quotes :
"So some people here appear to believe spam on bitcoin is not a serious or important problem. I'm here to explain why bitcoin spam is a very big problem right now. But before I start, I should clarify some terms:
I define spam as any non-monetary data on bitcoin. Runes, BRC tokens, ordinals, rare sats, inscriptions, you name it. If Murch, Shinobi, Gloria, or anyone else is confused, please tell them to come here and I will work best to explain. Bring your own crayons and paper.
Spam UTXO are UTXOs with less than 1000 sats, intended for spam data storage. These people have to put some sats in it to pass it off as a genuine bitcoin transaction. So they put just a little above the dust limit. It's important to understand that these people are cheating the system by using it in a way that it was not intended to be used. Almost all, over 99.99% of fake pubkeys and fake scripthash are spam UTXOs. These people are attackers, not users.
Censorship: It's important to understand that bitcoin is money. As such, preventing you from posting jpegs with fake pubkeys, fake scripthash, or fake witness does not qualify as censorship anymore than stopping you from preaching about Allah in a Jewish temple is a form of religious censorship.
Until 2023 spam was not really a thing. A few people would embed some inscriptions like bible verses, the white paper, or other random but rare messages. But since early 2023, the chain blew up with spam and the UTXO set basically doubled in 3 years. There are two aspects of the spam problem: the social aspect, and the on chain aspect:
Social aspect:
Before 2023, pretty much everyone understood what spam was. But gradually, some people started to legitimize spam by saying thing like "those are valid transactions" or "they paid they miner fees" or referring to them as "users", not attackers. This is similar to staying the Nigerian prince email you received is a valid email that followed all the email protocols, proper grammar and syntax, and the sender paid his internet bill. Even some core contributors have referred to spam as "new use cases". In 2012 when someone posted child p**n on chain, nobody dared ask if it was a valid transaction, or if he paid his miner fee. We all recognized it as an obvious attack, but the language around spam is changing in an Orwellian manner.
Feb. 2022 - Core changes the documentation on Github. The description of "Bitcoin as an experimental digital currency that enables instant payments to anyone, anywhere in the world." is changed. It's replaced with the definition of Bitcoin core and all mentions of bitcoin as money or currency have been removed from the documentation.
Luke Dashjr submits a pull request. Effectively a way to filter out ordinals. The definition of datacarriersize is changed in the core documentation. Some spam apologists complain of censorship, and the pull request is closed based on it being too controversial, and based on the new definition of datacarriersize. Had core implemented this filter in their next release, over 85% of the nodes would be running this filter today.
Gloria Zhao, core head maintainer, openly insults bitcoiners who don't believe in altcoins, gives the thumbs down to bitcoin maximalists, and the thumbs up to NFTs. She admits she doesn't know or care about economics, or bitcoin as money, and she refers to spam as "uses cases we have today" she feels Satoshi failed to account for. She also reduces the subject of spam down to you liking or disliking cat pictures.
Previously respected people like Maxwell, Back, and others are now going around and attacking any and all attempts at fighting spam as futile, censorship, confiscatory, and attacks on bitcoin, Yes friends, spam is no longer an attack to them, but resisting the spam is the real threat here based on Back, Maxwell et al. These bad actors are now campaigning against all attempts to fight spam.
An entire industry is being erected around bitcoin spam. ordiscan, ordinalexplorer, oklink, and countless other spam explorer sites and spam indexer sites are popping up. There are now more bitcoin spam explorers than there are actual genuine bitcoin explorers, And new ones are popping up all the time.
June 2025: Core releases a statement about the op_return filter controversy. In it they explain: "Knowingly refusing to relay transactions that miners would include in blocks anyway forces users into alternate communication channels, undermining the above goals."
This indicates core doesn't really have a problem with spam of any kind. They don't think that miners filling their blocks with 30% of absolute crap is a problem, because miners accept a fee for it.
According to core, the problem is that nodes might filter spam, and not cater to the miners. If you run a node, you are the problem unless you bend to the desires of bad actor spam miners.
On chain aspect:
The UTXO set is blowing up with 40-50% of all UTXOs being spam UTXOs with fewer than 1000 sats, just above the dust limit. Almost all of them created in the last 3 years. And though they make up half of the UTXO set, they only constitute less than 0.002% of the total bitcoin in circulation.
After 3 years of an ongoing spam attack, and not doing anything about it, barely recognizing it as a problem. core decides to remove a spam filter. A filter that has been in place for 11 years is suddenly framed as a form of censorship, and core shills claim the filter "doesn't work" because only 99.9% of the op_return transactions are within the filters limits and/or because spammers use other methods to spam bitcoin. This is like saying your front door lock failed to work because an intruder used the unlocked back door.
With the release of core 30, file sharing is effectively a new supported and sanctioned use case of bitcoin. Spammers no longer need to cheat the system to spam bitcoin with fake pubkeys, fake scripthash, or fake witness. They can now upload any and all explicit/illicit/illegal/immoral file they desire. No need to go through a 3rd party spam miner anymore. They can put any file they desire on the 90,000 nodes of the network, and they are using bitcoin EXACTLY as core 30 intents them to use it.
During the last halvening, runes spam swamped the blocks and pumped miner fees to over $100 for one block confirmation, For weeks, real bitcoin transactions were displaced by spam scams. This should put to rest the absurd idea that "miner fees will displace spam" as if some magic smoke in the fees wold displace only spammers but not real bitcoin monetary transactions.
Currently, as I write this, some bad actor mining pools are lowering their miner fees to below 1 sat/vB in order to fill their blocks with spam inscriptions. Further discrediting that the fees are the filter to spam. And estimated 1 million inscriptions are being mined every week by these disgraceful miners who are "making spam cheap again".
New on chain services like SlipStream and LibreRelay are launched. These services are expressly tailor made to help spam miner accept more spam.
Q&A:
Q: So what? You still can send and receive bitcoin, no?
A: It's important to realize that the health and survival of bitcoin depends on a large number of nodes regulating the network. With devs and mining pools getting increasingly and dangerously centralized, the nodes network is the only aspect of bitcoin that is still decentralized. This is something unique to bitcoin in comparison to all other "crypto". As such, nodes are being burdened to store spam they have no incentive to store. This spam constitutes a direct threat to the ability of running a node affordably, and without any added moral/social/legal risks that this spam can burden nodes with. Th survival of bitcoin as a decentralized currency depends on a large umber of nodes regulating the network. Don't let naysayers fool you into thinking running a node is basically useless and a selfish and powerless endeavor. You should run a node too, preferably Knots, not core as they are now a bad actor on the network.
Q: What do you care? Just ignore them and they will go away.
A: This is incredibly naive. With core effectively beating down a path for spam, and an entire infrastructure being built around spam (see above) spam will only get worst and new spam schemes will arrive on bitcoin unless we do something about it.
Q: Data is freedom, fighting arbitrary data could be a form of censorship?
A: No, bitcoin is money and bitcoin is built to provide you with censorship resistant money. Your right to religion, abortion, and jpegs don't belong on bitcoin anymore than your right to watch porn or worship Islam belong in my church. You can use bitcoin to buy a pancake or a jpeg. But neither your pancake nor your jpeg belong on the bitcoin chain. Other shitcoins are built expressly to flex your right to dickbutt jpegs. Go there.
Q: Child pn and other illicit stuff happened before and bitcoin survived. Why don't you go away?
A: Yes, child pn and other stuff happened in the past. We were all furious about it. We all wanted to find ways to minimize or remove it. We did not build services like OpenRelay or SlipStream to cater to more of it. We didn't say it's a valid transaction, we didn't care if a miner fee was paid or not. We recognized it as an attack, not as an "exiting new use case". And the offensive material was broken up in many transactions, obfuscated to look like genuine bitcoin transactions. It was not a contiguous file the network was expressly modified to accept as a sanctioned and supported use case. And we certainly didn't blow up filters to invite more of it. On the contrary, more filters were built after the first instance of child pn on bitcoin**.
Q: I've been told core devs don't like spam. Aren't you overreacting?
A: Don't follow what they say, follow what they actually do, They call it "arbitrary data" or "new use case" because it sounds better than spam when describing a dickbutt jpeg. They have resisted any and all measures against spam, and they are removing filters, changing defaults to facilitate more spam. And most often claiming they can't do anything about it, or they shouldn't do anything about it.
Q: But we can't stop them, they are smarter and motivated, Why bother?
A: The demand world wide for redundant and permanent cheap data storage us virtually unlimited. It's our duty, all of us, to protect bitcoin against it and minimize the incentives and effects on bitcoin. More hostility towards spam will result result in less spam, with the implied understanding that it can never be completely stopped.
Q: Isn't that a slippery slope towards censorship?
A: No, since the start of bitcoin, spam was always resisted and treated in an hostile manner. There are over a dozen filters in core, all mostly present since the start. None of them ever devolved into censorship. And as new spam cases arise, new filters should be built, not removing existing filters. And you have to give the 90,000+ bitcoiners who run a node some credit. We understand the difference between a dickbutt jpeg and blocking Iranian UTXOs. We can tell the difference between an ordinal and an OLFAC compliant list of UTXOs. "
"What exactly do you think separates bitcoin from the other zillion shitcoins out there? What makes bitcoin decentralized?
I'm telling you, what makes bitcoin separate from all others is decentralization. Because there are 90,000+ bitcoin nodes and 24,000+ of them listening nodes.
**Bitcoin is not decentralized because of mining. Less than a handful of mining pools decide for over 90% what goes into a block while the individual miners are mere employees to the mining pool.
Yes the miner can switch from one pool to an other. But mining pools operate as a cartel. They are extremely centralized. And the individual miner doesn't decide what goes into a block, or even cares if the pool finds a block or not. It's all extremely centralized at the pool level.
Bitcoin is not decentralized because of devs. Less than a handful of core devs decide what gets into your node software.
The only part of bitcoin that is decentralized is the nodes. Bitcoin is unique in that no other shitcoin is node decentralized. And that is very very important because nodes are what regulates the network.
We won the block war because we said nodes are more important than scaling on chain. Because we said without a large amount of nodes regulating the network, bitcoin is dead.
But just like during the block wars, these shitcoiners are trying to tell you running a node is useless.
Well, they don't directly tell you that running a node is useless. They tell you your node policy can't stop spam, they tell you the consensus change of your node with BIP-444/110 can't stop spam. They tell you the UTXO set your node maintains can't stop spam.
They are basically telling you that miners, devs, and top bitcoiners actually run the show, and that nodes must bend to the will of miners and devs.
That's all shitcoin talk. Nodes run the show. Nodes validate what miners do. Mining pools and devs are mere employees of the system and nodes that run for free, and in fact at a cost, are the true regulators of the network, keeping us decentralized.
Don't buy into the bullshit that nodes are basically meaningless. Without nodes, bitcoin us just an other centralized shitcoin.
"
"Wake TF up buddy. The infrastructure is being built which will facilitate (intentionally or not) a massive wave of illicit, ilegal, and immoral files. These files will be pushed through the network with op_return without the need for spam 3rd parties like SlipStream, and each and every node will have to download, host, and relay this shit.
It's not likely to happen right now, with only 10% of the nodes running spamware 30 and the rest of the network still running filters at 83 bytes. An attack right now would lend too much credibility to the anti-spam guys and provide us with a giant "told you so" foam finger.
Here is how I imagine it will happen.
A few years from now, after you tell me a zillion times that nothing is happening, and most nodes have downgraded to spamware 30, and you will have come out as triumphan against us, the parranoid anti-spam knotzis.
A shit ton of illicit, disgusting material will be posted on chain. With op_return blown up, they won't have to break up their shit into a 100 different transactions and have to ask Mara's spamware SlipStream for permission.
A few of the most prominent and vocal bitcoiners will be SWAT'd, charged, and procecuted for running a node, hosting, and distributing illicit child porn.
If they are in a decent country with a half decent legal system, they will be allowed to defend themselves in courts, provided they have a few millions to spare in legal fees, and a few years of drama. Most likely, they will be forced to accept a plead bargain and a few years in jail, like the Samurai crew is being forced to do right now.
And the beauty of it all, is that it will all be done without cheating the network. No fake pubkeys required, no fake scripthash required. They won't even have to pretend it's a genuine monetary transaction by barely going above the dust limit. The attackers will be using the system EXACTLY AND PRECISELY as core 30 intended it to be used: censorship resistent illicit file sharing and hosting.
These few bitcoiners will be perp walked on town square as examples to the rest of us.
Many nodes will just throw in the towel in discuss at the very idea of hosting and relaying the disgusting stuff. Others who are more hard core bitcoiners will still throw in the towel by fear that they might get SWAT'd too.
"Oh my! Won't someone think of the childten?"
Of course none of this would gain popular support if child porn and other disgusting materials were not involved
It's a lot easier to scare and manipulate bitcoiners who knowingly are hosting and relaying illicit disgusting material than it is to manipulate and scare ones who are just running a clean node.
With the surveillance state growing and growing every day, they might be able to pinpoint and locate every single node in just a few years, even those running or tor. In fact, they just might be able to do that today.
Within a year or two after the start of the illicit material attack, the number of nodes will have dramatically decreased. Whoever still remains will likely be offered to be permitted with a special license. You know, to make sure they are not pedos. And here is a list of non-OFAC/AML/KYC compliment UTXOs. Thank you for your collaboration.
The only part of the network that is still decentralized, the nodes, will no longer be.
Zhao, Maxwell, Back, Todd, Shill-Nobi and the rest of the shitcoiners might not even be on the scene anymore. Lucky for them. The cheepy fucks win.
You guys are just un-fucking-believable.
You refuse to filter spam with decent filters and you insist on calling anyone who do paranoid knotzis.
You refuse to block spam at the consensus level with BIP-444/110, even temporarily.
You refuse to block spam with The Cat.
And you scrug your shoulders and claim there is nothing we can do about spam, but just pray and wait that they somehow go away on their own.
They're not even spammers anymore, they are redefined as "users who need to upload data".
There is not even spam either. We can't define the word spam anymore than we can define the word woman. It's all "interesting and exiting new use cases Satoshi was too narrow minded to make room for".
What a disgrace!
Quote from: leonardBig on December 16, 2025, 05:22:44 AM
You're absolutely right, and you've hit on the exact metric that truly matters, both technically and practically: RAM and I/O performance.
The debate about blockchain size versus Unspent Transaction Output (UTXO) size is a classic, but what really impacts the user or node operator isn't just disk space, but how that information is accessed.
Yeah!
Don't run any filters against spam. That would be very bad. Maxwell said so. And he's the expert. He knows better than you.
Don't try to stop spam at the consensus level, even temporarily, with the BIP-444/110. That too would be very bad. Maxwell, the expert, told you so.
Don't even try to take the spam out of the UTXO set, that would be bad. Maxwell, the expert, told you so.
Oh, BTW, there is really nothing you can do about spam. Just pray with us that they will just go away soon.
And don't forget to blow up the op_return on your node. Yes, we have to create more ways for spammers to shit all over bitcoin. They'll just go away if we bend over for them and take it deep enough.
"
where the real warfare strategy shines, take the win, then your kids die. miss zhao , opening her sweet mouth, to chew BY FORCE her OWN KIDS FLESH, do girl , do, like michael did,
you want to die now? DENIED.
eat
more
eat
EAT
good girl, you behave, in line with flynn to shit it now
:)
next in line...
and if you think YOUR kids can't be put ON LIFE SUPPORT SYSTEM TO REGEN THEIR FLESH UNTIL YOU DIE
you don't understand warfare and unrestricted suffering inflcted on beast until they DIE inside for REAL.
and this method will break any on earth.
AND IT WILL BE DESTROYED AS IN THE WORDS OF PEATRUS. never to reconsitute EVER AGAIN.
comon OOHers, common... warfare against NON HUMAN is way lighter for the soul...
as our next problem is of course coin-join and the attack on samurai wallet...
happilly bare metals, can't the OOH yet take, it's su2 all over again.
as there is no stake (computer code) none, the elements of the periodic tables, no laws over periodic tables, man made laws that the little bitches of the legal cacademia dream to enforce on others like their dolls in the small doll houses... "play dady, take the cup". and due to the physicality, can rely on segregated individual custody, meaning that shanghai silver isn't in a ether... there is a line... to defend it... for cherge it means nothing , " ALL BELONGS TO HIM". those like it, many have crossed the great plains and will, the line that matters.
of course michael flynn uses Zhao, like margaret chan or the plandemist lady in the bomb of boston... leana wen...
since stealth, covers, decoys, wrappers, they all always find themselves so smart before their kids are just corpses around themselves :), always, then they cry, like shit... and are killed like nothing.
the problem of this approach of flynn, in china, there are many many criminals, oh vey... it's life. only they don't rule china... they are fought against... and killed for some, as they don't do again, no corzine back to the uniparty parties tour :).
so little girls of legals, still want to play doll house like with daddy but real people? it may hurt...
ah funny, all my chinese ethnic enemies are outside china... hmmm... strange co(h)encidence... hmmm....
the great white washing of the specialist of western governance system at work...
yeah yeah gayga aka a gay nigga :)
teh funny thing at the end all the "military leaders of the UNO military commission" will lose all... their home support to end like hunted beast, and killed like traitors...
or they win and get their global gov, "oh wey, heil general secreatry HEIL HEILLL".
all will hate, hate their kids, all, look they already have to front tucker to defend their children as they feel the flow going against them more and more each day...
so go go go,... be your "uno doll house slaves" do as told, as you always do,
anyway...
"we want babel again"
okay enjoy.
question is it antisolominst? ahah.
:)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2825075;sa=showPosts
the whole.
what i didn't understood once the contaminated Txs pass in the block they are there? again low skill individual... hmmm maybe an ai will answer in a few ns :). (guess yes)
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i did my effort to open up, toward you occupiers of SHMR; i wish only your death now. and of your kids.
you are the plague seeking to implement again su1 over the world, you are demons you are monsters so enjoy your vip life and may it lead to the death of your grand children.
and now unforgiving, now as explainer, it's a fact : YOU ARE FANATICS OF THE OOH.
nothing will make you change, you want it at all and any costs, hmm, i am not sure that you have stack to back your planetary ambitions...
be sorry for your leadership.
"an adversarial mindset"
ahhh... defined.
side note : I HATE THOSE forums : https://bitcoinknotsforum.com/
so gay... the whole dollification of life... so, weak, so unstrict, so... mediocre.
the key concept su1 always fought : "adversarial mindset"... since egypt.... :)
all this anger me so much, i can't read anymore... really... to always end up in the "dead end" of the uno freaks little legal girls playing dolls with others people lives to please their great teachers indoctrination.
"Filters work, prove me wrong!"
it's called borders too :)
the problem he uses reasons against those who have orders, completely illogical... against those there is only violence :) cities burned, worlds gone... duh, warfare, don't be a dramaqueen :).