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RE: Steemchiller goes witness! Let's make Steem safe again ;)

The next steps will come from the community consultations and further dicussions.

That's part of "the problem".

They should be focusing on establishing FEWER principled rules (AXIOMS).

Instead of piling on MORE ad hoc, opinion based rules.

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You seem to be making a lot of assumptions. The consultations are more about how to adjust the Witness voting to mitigate a large stake being able to have the power to override the wider community.

Will it be got right ... probably not the first few times. Coming from a wider pool of knowledge there is a much better chance of refinement than just a small number of supposed experts who don't know what they don't know.

Are you listening to yourself?

In a STAKE-BASED-SYSTEM, whoever controls the most STAKE controls the system.

The most obvious way to MITIGATE any potential for harm, is to increase the number of "TOP-WITNESSES" to something like 2000 (but 200 would be a start).

What you seem to be suggesting is to create some special class of "SUPER-WITNESSES" that can never be voted out.

And that's pretty much EXACTLY what they've done already. With that "30 day delay", the current "17 KINGS" can cut-off any potential challengers at the knees.

They are essentially UNCHALLENGABLE.

It's more like you are are not listening .. I know exactly what I'm saying, you are seeing what you choose to.

BTW, you need to keep in mind, I'm responding talking about HIVE where there is no ninjamine and someone would need to buy just about that amount to get the control that SUN has on Steem.

The fact is in the whole episode of Sun and his sock puppets the community learned that collectively when they focused their voting the collective stake had power. While 4 of the top 20 had the help of the proxy.token to get back into the top 20 the others who got up there were voted by the community focusing their votes. That is a lesson not quickly forgotten.

Where you get the idea of me suggesting any kind of super witness is more in your imagination than mine. I never shared any preference of how the witness voting could or could not change.

What I said was the wider community discussing and arriving at consensus is better than a few select so called experts thinking they know best.

I'm responding talking about HIVE where there is no ninjamine...

But the HIVE did NOT remove the entire "ninjamine". They only removed the part controlled by JSUN.

What I said was the wider community discussing and arriving at consensus is better than a few [17] select so called experts thinking they know best.

17 KINGS =/= "wider community consensus"

No, the ninjamine that was the issue was SUN's... it's the one which the real problem in all this, Ned, started the problem with. The code for non-voting should have been triggered when it was built into the code instead of letting Ned string the community along claiming it was community funds.

The other ones who mined at the beginning never made any claims other than they had mined Steem and it was their stake.

BTW.. when you quote someone, it doesn't mean you get to edit what they have said. That ends a conversation through deception.

BTW.. when you quote someone, it doesn't mean you get to edit what they have said. That ends a conversation through deception.

Please be more specific.

It is common practice to trim quotes with "..." at the beginning or end of a direct quote and or insert words with "[]".

If I have misquoted you somewhere, please explain exactly where.

It is never a practice to insert your own editing into a quote. That terminates a conversation when someone messes with my words.

If I have misquoted you somewhere, please explain exactly where.

The other ones who mined at the beginning never made any claims other than they had mined Steem and it was their stake.

That seems rather convenient. How is one person's secret stash of "free" steem any better than another?

Non-binding "agreements" or "reassurances" =/= forfeiture of voting rights

I'll bet that if JSUN bought-up a ton of stake from other random accounts, "the community" would be begging NED to vote against JSUN (to "save the community").

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