Would A People's Vote Really Solve The Brexit Deadlock?

in #brexit7 years ago (edited)

British parliament is in deadlock over the Brexit situation. Many have called for a second vote to help break the impact. But will it really solve the problem?

I'm not so sure.

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I voted to Remain in the European Union in the 2016 referendum. Therefore, one might assume that I support a people's vote. However, I think it is fraught with more risks than people realise.

I'm not concerned about people making threats about the rise of the far right. I don't consider the threat of violence to be a reason for not doing anything.

However, the original referendum did cause toxicity between friends and family and I do believe the same tensions will start again. There needs to be a period of diffusion.

The first problem, is that Leave voters can rightly claim that there has already been a vote. Do we keep voting until we get the right result?

I also sense that those campaigning for the People’s Vote are assuming that there will be a resounding win for Remain. But would there be? There is no sufficient evidence to show that that would be the case.

What if Remain wins by 51% - 49%% it would be a narrower victory than the Leave win of 2016. Where would that leave us? The Leave voters would argue or campaign for another vote. More deadlock.

The next question is, what actually goes on the ballot paper. May’s deal? Remain? Norway+? No Deal? What voting system do we use? First past the post or the alternative vote system? Arguments will ensue about how to run the vote.

Should ‘No Deal’ be on the paper? There is a strong argument that it should. What happens if the public vote for it? It is a very realistic prospect. A no deal exit could happen anyway, but this time it will be the public that will get the blame.

Therefore, I believe It is a far more risky idea than people realise. It could make things worse. The only way a People's Vote could solve the problem (for Remain voters) is that Remain wins with a clear victory. There is no evidence to suggest that that would happen.

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Since the original referendum, there has been a general election, which was billed by some, including Theresa May, as the referendum part 2. This backfired, as May’s Conservative party lost their majority. They lost seats in Remain voting areas, particularly London, which were considered safe.

The result could indicate that there should have been a cross party compromise deal that they could have taken to Brussels. To date, this has not happened, with Theresa May trying to please all factions of her party. This has failed.

Labour have now proposed a Norway+ model. Could this be the compromise? Should the UK stay in the single market and the customs union? This would not please everyone as it would mean retaining the 4 freedoms, including movement of people. I do believe this could pass through parliament.

Perhaps this is a solution for now which could be reviewed in a few years time. Instead of another referendum, it would allow each party to launch their own policy on Brexit. We could even have found that the appetite for this issue has waned.

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Before I finish, I have another reason for wanting to avoid a People's Vote. I believe that referendums should be banned. My reasons for this has nothing to do with the toxicity of the Brexit debate.

Referendums take away the responsibilities of elected leaders and blame then gets put on the public.. As with the EU referendum, the devil was always in the details and this is not how democracy should work. It is our nation's leaders that should be responsible for major decisions.

I voted to Remain in the 2016 EU referendum, but I would settle for a Norway+ Brexit. It may be a better solution than risking a People's Vote.

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I think you are absolutely correct about this, the way I see it the whole concept of the original vote was flawed to the core - asking the public to decide on something they could not possibly ever comprehend the consequences of either way - amidst propaganda that was at best misleading and at worst deliberately against the ethics of a multicultural society.

I strongly believe the leave vote was bolstered through by claims it would solve "issues" that are not even relevant to the UK being in the EU, and subsequently people have realised they were mislead which has lead to this deadlock.

Ultimately this is a decision of the informed, with absolute facts and figures to work on - with the best will it is not something a total population could understand and vote on with confidence to choose the best option.

Hopefully the lessons that have been learned will lead to a better future, but right now this mess has caused massive destabilisation that I am not confident a result either way will can resolve.

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Safe to say that we are on the same page.

Well, it could turn down the Brexit I supposed. The processing has been too long for 2.5 years..
It's about time that Brexit be pushed through by March this year.. No more talks and if the Brexit hardliners want a no deal then give it to them and see how UK economy flourish if at all.

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I'm a Remain voter but I hope now for Norway+ deal, stay in the single market. I think this is possible and the EU negotiators said yesterday that they would support this. It will upset those that want a hardline Brexit, but I'll lose no sleep over that. If most Labour MPs support this, then there is a good chance that this will go through. If the EU see that there is a direction, then I'm sure they'll extend the deadline to accomodate it.

When I visited the UK in my 20's there was no EU and I had great fun and a very nice time there. I hope it will be a No-Deal Brexit and then your Country can be again a great world player, not a tail to this undemocratic institution. Good luck anyway!

I don't want a no deal Brexit, but I would prefer it it Theresa May's existing deal. I voted Remain but would settle for a soft Brexit, i.e. staying in the single market. It could be the only way forward.

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The concerning thing for me and is at the top of my list over Brexit is Democracy - for right or for wrong reasons a vote was called and the results came in. So for me, we push on to leave. What deal if any all above me, I just no we the people are never better off whatever the results, but the people including myself, I believe want to see and expect to see mass improvements within the peoples NHS.

Nobody campaigned for a no-deal Brexit before the referendum. I voted remain but I would support a Norway+ deal, staying in the single market. As for the NHS, I can't agree with you more, but that will not come from this present Tory party, whatever they especially those that promised it on the side of that bus.