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RE: Is There A Whale War Going on In Steemit?
@stellabelle what happened is that @dan started downvoting a bunch of content that was neither, trolling, abusive, spam nor a violation of copyright and managed to start a flagging war.
It'll sort itself out. The investors who disagree with this approach will power down and move their coin elsewhere, meanwhile new investors will see this sort of thing and stay away. The price will crash further, but a handful of people will have a nice empty room to shout into and no one interested in buying their coin.
Meanwhile this BS has cost me 3 restaurants and 2 hotels that were interested in accepting steem and blogging on steemit. So yeah guys keep this up, let's see where it gets us.
I'm pretty sure that voting habits on Steemit.com aren't why hotels and restaurants aren't accepting STEEM. And if that is the reason, then you're not pitching the concept to them properly. STEEM is not Steemit.com. The blogging interface should have little to no bearing on the acceptance/use of the currency. Also - you should probably be selling them on SBDs, not STEEM.
Haha, had no idea it was Black Friday today. Do you really believe that a bunch of downvotes will be the beginning of the end? I definitely don´t do that :-)
It's naive to think that the constant content wars are not having a negative effect.
This has been going on since day one and is one of the main reasons that the early adopters, many of them, have left or are now just watching from the sidelines.
We can't ask all of them. But I bet that a lot of early adopters left due to the heavy prize drop... I joined in July and haven't ever felt being part of a war. That's surely my personal point of view.
You have to look at it from the perspective of someone interested in joining.
The specific content being censored is price information. It's literally censored, you have to click through it like it was adult content or something.
First question I had to answer today when I woke up was "What's the deal, what are you guys hiding?"
I dont think that new investors would really read content and struggle on hidden posts. They much more focus on numbers.
We are still in beta. I have always seen that as a testing area. Don't you?
The first question that I had to answer today when I woke up was "Where is my coffee?!" ;-))
oh so the ozchart post was greyed out earlier? I didn't see that. It was already visible by the time i saw it.
i dont get why he was flagged? first master yoda and now him? why is their content acceptable one day and then not the next?
were you also on the phone to your millionaire friends?
Well I just brought on La Fonda restaurant and hotel in Baja, so no, not a phone call.
do you accept steem at your hotel? and if not, it it because of how bernie sanders votes on dan's comments?
I really don't know what to think anymore to be honest. Conflicts like this if left unresolved become toxic and obviously, i think that we are witnessing a toxic situation. The constant warring is just getting too ridiculous. I was thinking of teaching a class of high school students to come onto Steemit, but until we have some really good ways of dealing with this kind of conflict, I am hesitant. I see that I'm not alone in this feeling of hesitancy. I think by continuing to avoid the central conflict, we will be disadvantaged. There are a lot of smart people in here. Are we too stubborn to find a solution to this? Surely, there is a way.....
Flagging for disagreement on rewards is considered a valid reason to flag/downvote. I think a large part of the problem is the perception of getting flagged is that someone did something wrong, and that a lot of times it is taken personally (even though in reality, getting flagged does not necessarily mean that the person did something wrong).
It seems that many in community are moving more towards subjective flagging - which is allowed, but may take some time for the community to adjust to.
the weird thing about OzChart is that I can see both sides. I understand why Dan flagged it (although using 2 accounts seems extreme) but I understand why it was viewed in such a negative way also. What's clear in all of this: scaring away users is not the answer. (case in point, Masteryoda). What is the solution, when everyone has a completely different opinion about the reward allocation? Development of groups? I think if we were all engaged in our different groups, we perhaps would not be so focused on the main page?
Seriously? He got probably over a hundred grand all told for posts which required zero work. If thats not good enough for him, the platform is way better off without him.
he used two accounts because bernie called in backup (steemd/itsascam/the badger army)
Rewards should be capped and the ability for flags to effect rewards on posts that are not in violation of agreed normas (ie plagiarism etc) should be eliminated.