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RE: FBI: More People Killed by Hammers, Clubs

in #discussion6 years ago

Don't trust stats that you haven't faked yourself. (Churchill)

Using the term "rifle" renders the whole thing mostly meaningless. Even a shotgun is not classed a rifle. And most fire arm related crimes are commited with pistols, for obvious reasons.
But you can even turn the result around easily, by asking "Which was used more often to commit suicide, rifles or hammers and bats?"

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an estimated one and a half million people protect them selves yearly with guns. I'd say that offsets the 30 thousand or so deaths.

But wait...many if not most of those deaths are the BAD GUY....shot by people protecting themself..

BUT WAIT...there's still more....it's not possible to prevent suicide. If a person wants to kill themselves they'll find a way, unless they are locked up under suicide watch (didn't help Epstein did it?)

But WAIT again. Who own's you? If you want to kill yourself who's to say you can't?

several states have 'assisted suicide laws.

one more thang...
a 'rifle' is a long gun with rifling,groves to make the bullet spin, in the barrel.
shotguns are smooth bore (duh)

and finally.
are you saying we can't trust the FBI?

Well, there are also 12 gauge shotguns that have a rifled barrel, but never mind.
I think thats what I said by

Even a shotgun is not classed a rifle.

What I want to point out is, that the term "rifle" makes the stats insignificant. Of course not so many criminal run around with a rifle, while every idiot can buy a hammer and hide it under the clothes. I bet even a lot more murders are carried out with a knife than with rifles and hammers combined.
Its not the question if a statistic is true or not, its more about how its designed to present a certain scenario.

To the suicides... It is true that someone who is determined to kill himself will find a way to do so, or at least try.
However, the death wish is often a reaction out of desperation in a certain situation. A lot of times "sleeping over it" might change the view of that person again. A gun in easy reach however can cause the person to carry out the suicide too quickly, before having a chance for second thoughts.

no..shot guns do NOT have rifled barrels.
it's no use for shot.
what you might be thinking of is rifled SLUGS. The rifleing is on the projectile...not the gun

the point is that guncontrol not only doesn't work it makes the problem worse.

When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

update.
you're right. Some shotguns do have rifled barrels. The reason is to comply with the law
Shotguns are often used with rifled barrels in locations where it is not lawful to hunt with a rifle. Typically, a sabot slug is used in these barrels for maximum accuracy and performance.

stupid law.

I believe I mentioned that.
Nice gun.