I Bet You Thought God Wanted To Send You To Hell
The world of misconceptions will bring you some very interesting discoveries. Especially when you discover the truth. You've heard it before "God just wants to send people to hell", or "How can a loving God send people to hell?"
These are common ideas about who God is and his character. Although people have a choice in how they want to live let's see what God really has to says about this.
Did you know God can be known? Did you know that he is not trying to send people to hell?
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GOD neither wanted to send me to heaven nor to hell...rather GOD wants to liberate me from the cycle of birth and death.
Thank you so much @humanearl.
Steem on and stay blissful.
@humanearl,
Actually I am not in your religion, but to me God won't send people to the hell! In all human spirits we have light side and dark side! God wish to delight the light side, but some people doesn't understand it and they made a wrong choice! As a result of that, they has to pay for their Sin at the hell!
This is how I fee about it bro! Nice topic and very useful discussion!
Cheers~
A better way of understand people going to hell is to say that they choose to go there because they don't want Him in their lives.
@humanearl - Sir, god made us & he lives inside of our hearts... When we do merits he bless us... When we do sins he can do nothing Sir... God won't let us to go to hell... He made us for a great purpose... We are the people who need to choose where we are going... People like you do, collect merits & will build the path to gods world... God always bless you for that Sir...
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A very wonderful post @humanearl. I don't believe God hates humans because He created hell. I believe anyone that goes to hell made the choice to, whether consciously or unconsciously.
Going to hell is the result of our intentional wrong actions.
Consider this example. God has created fire and all of us are aware of the effect of it then if someone burns him/herself intentionally would you blame God since he has created fire؟
Likewise, if someone hurts him/herself intentionally by a sharp knife will you blame the maker of knife? Absolutely you will not.
God has created the heaven and hell as well as us. He has made us aware of consequences of our good and bad actions through numerous Prophets thus this is the human who decides which way to go with free will.
God didn't create hell/the lake of fire for humans. It was made for the fallen angels. But those who do not choose God will be separated forever.
On the contrary, hell is the very last place that God wants you to end up in! He has ‘bent over backwards’ to give you an ‘escape clause’.
You have seemingly been talking to some seriously odd and ignorant people. The reality is that all of us have failed to live up to the perfection that is God’s nature, as a result of which, Jesus tries to rescue as many as possible from their own failing. What is hell anyway? Not the fire and brimstone of popular imagery, but a separation from the glories of fellowship in God’s kingdom. God doesn’t ‘send people to hell’, he strives for the exact opposite; to reconcile people to himself. He wants us to experience the best and the highest for eternity because love, truth, justice beauty and holiness are all at the very core of his nature.
You are exactly right my friend. Hell is the separation from God which is the lowest place of all existence.
Romans 1:18–20 lays the foundation for the answer:
“The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse”
How can a loving God send someone to hell?” The entire question is really right to me. A better wording is “If God is love, then why do some people go to hell?”
There are several key points in this passage that give us glimpses into the heart of God. First is the fact that people actively “suppress the truth.” People have been given enough truth to know and surrender to God, but they refuse it. Self-will wants to deny God’s right to tell us what to do. So, with the truth in front of them, many people turn away and refuse to see it. Atheist Thomas Nagel has said, “It isn’t just that I don’t believe in God and, naturally, hope that I’m right in my belief. It’s that I hope there is no God! I don’t want there to be a God; I don’t want the universe to be like that.”
Second, Romans 1 states that God has “made [God’s nature] plain to them.” In other words, God has taken the initiative to make His truth known to everyone. History has proved this since time began, as every people group has sought some understanding of a Creator to whom they owe allegiance. Such knowledge is an integral part of what it means to be created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). Romans 1:20 then says that “people are without excuse.” And to whom would they give such an excuse? The very One who says He has made Himself known to them, if they would only humble themselves and accept such revelations. God judges each of us according to the truth He has given us, and Romans 1 states that we each have enough truth to turn toward rather than away from Him.
The suppression of truth will become even worse as we get closer to the return of Jesus.
Wonderful post again. A very sensitive topuc @humanearl.
Just because God is loving, does not mean that he loves everything—there are some things that God doesn’t love, that in fact he hates. So he doesn’t love murder, or abuse, or selfishness, or pride. Actually, if he is loving, then he will hate these things. It wouldn’t be very loving of God to look at something like child abuse and say: “Well, I’m not really that bothered.”
So God is loving—and yet he doesn’t love everything.
We actually all deserve to be punished. We all deserve to go to hell. None of us are perfect—so none of us should be in God’s perfect kingdom.
Now as I say this, I know it’s not an easy thing to hear. It’s not an easy thing for me to hear. But just because we don’t like something, doesn’t mean that it’s not true.
And it’s not something that Jesus says flippantly or lightly, without caring. He doesn’t say it just to scare us. But he does say it to warn us—and to help us see how amazing it is that he offers us a way out.
Because this is the amazing news—that even though we all deserve punishment, even though we deserve to go to hell, Jesus—God himself—has provided a way out for us. He doesn’t do this by leaving things unpunished, and so forgetting about justice. He does it by himself taking our place; in his death taking our punishment and himself experiencing hell so that we don’t have to.
It seems to me as if this is a truly loving God. He loves the world enough to punish wrongdoing, and he loves people enough to take the punishment himself.
He loves us enough to give us a choice: we can to ask him to be part of our lives now, and so avoid hell and look forward to enjoying his perfect eternal kingdom.
Thank you @humanearl. Its lovely to read and talk about your posts .
You put it plainly. Because he loves us so much he hates evil because it is in fact harmful to us. People don't seem to understand this concept.
Oh yes, this question was constantly interested in people and especially believers. It seems illogical to us that God can both love and be angry at the same time. However, none of us can comprehend the character of God. It may seem to us that His wrath is contrary to His desire to love, but these assumptions are very erroneous. In God's character, both anger and love can be combined, despite the fact that it is difficult for us to explain this. We can not understand much, but the decision, all the same, remains for us. The Bible says that we are all under God's condemnation. "You will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that it is I, then you will die in your sins, "Jesus said. Thanks for the great post @humanearl
Right. People somehow believe that all anger is wrong. Anger against evil is in fact justified.
Awesome. Good question really.
Hell is a place without God’s loving rule, which is precisely what people who go there have rejected. As Abi said, because none of us are perfect, none of us deserve to live in God’s perfect world, because “nothing impure will ever enter it” (Revelation 21:27). God is a loving, perfectly just God, and so he judges wrongdoing: mine, yours, everyone’s. Just as it’s fair that a lawbreaker in this country faces punishment, so it’s fair that we who live in God’s world and break his rules face his punishment.
In some ways, since no one is perfect, the real question isn’t: “Why does anyone go to hell?” but: “Why does anyone go to heaven?”
If life were “fair”, we would all go to hell and no one would get to live in heaven, in God’s perfect kingdom beyond Jesus’ return. But the amazing news, as Abi said, is that God has done something to make it possible for imperfect people like us to live in his perfect kingdom beyond death.
And he did it through Jesus, his Son. Jesus will return to this world to judge and punish; but first, he came to this world to serve and to save. He said about himself: “God so loved the world that he sent his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish [ie: go to hell] but have eternal life [in God’s kingdom]” (John 3:16).
Jesus made it possible for people to have life with God instead of the hell we deserve by taking the punishment of separation from his Father God’s love and all good things. That’s what he did on the cross, where he cried out: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Mark 15:34).
On the cross, Jesus God’s Son was cut off from the love of his Father for the first time in eternity. As he died, Jesus experienced hell. And he did that in our place, so we wouldn’t have to.
The Bible puts it this way: “The punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed” (Isaiah 53:6).
Because of Jesus’ death, hell is now avoidable, rather than inevitable.
Many focus on hell when God is trying to get us to focus on being a part of his coming Kingdom.
Hmm, this is a topic that has been well debated by a lot of intellectual minds, but I'll just give my own little opinion and conviction.
I believe God does not "send you to hell" he gives you your wish.
What if you were created by a sentient being for a purpose, to have fellowship with him here, and then forever, but with free will so that this fellowship would be real and not forced.
And what if you instead said "Screw you, my life is my own, I'll do what I want."
And what if what you want is to ignore your Creator's very existence, let alone refuse to have fellowship with him.
You'll have plenty of opportunities to change your mind. Maybe you've ignored several already. Maybe you're experiencing one at this moment.
But eventually, he will give you what you want. A place where he has no presence.
That's what hell is. The one place from which he has withdrawn. The one place he has no presence.
Because everyone that goes there has said repeatedly that they want nothing to do with the One who brought them life.
Until the moment you die, you have opportunities to change your mind.
After that you'll get your wish.
Ooohh. You have an interesting way of looking at it. I never thought about it that way but that is a very great understanding of the topic.
People don't understand that in their denial of God they are asking to be separated from Him which if they continue in that way they will get what they asked for. Like you said.