Ireland's psychopathic CPS system at its finest Part 2
Yesterday I had my meeting with the case worker at their office. You can read the story leading up to this here if you haven't already: https://steemit.com/familyprotection/@misslasvegas/ireland-s-psychopathic-cps-system-at-its-finest
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First impressions
I walked up to the reception which has a window you can't see through (I wondered if it was bullet proof glass). I rang the bell and a woman with a not-so-friendly face opened the window, moved her head forward a bit and looked at me as if to say: "What do you want?" No words came out of her mouth, no: "How can I help you" or "Hello"...Hell, even a "Yes?" would have sufficed. But nothing, just that look.
I wondered if their reception staff is hired because they're the most unfriendly people or if she was already judging me.
After I told her who I had the appointment with, she gestured to the waiting room and said: "Wait in there, she'll be right with you." AHA! There was a voice!
After a 25 (!) minute wait, the case worker came to get me and we walked into a room what looked like a conference room.
She came right to the point and wanted to know where my kids were. I told her they were at my friend's house and for a moment I thought she was going to ask me which friend, but I guess she knows that would be completely out of line.
Not that they care...
She started about the last time I'd seen them at my house, said she was a bit worried about me (yeah right) because I seemed upset. I can see what she was doing, she was playing the good cop...or Doctor Jekyll...
There's a thing here in Ireland that seems to be something everyone needs to live by: you can't be upset and showing your kids that you are is a big NO NO. I think this still stems from their time with the Catholic nuns and somehow it's still in their blood. But yeah: DAMN right I was upset. They'd been messing me about for months now, and those last few times I spoke to them was nothing less than confusing. I knew she would play the emotional stability card, so I had my answer ready. I told her that after growing up in a family where all emotions were held in, I teach my kids that it's OK to be upset sometimes as long as we talk about it and solve any issues. I also told her about numerous books and studies on the subject and that it is perfectly fine for kids to see this sometimes because it makes us human.
I added that I was upset because of something that was out of my control and within theirs, so she didn't have to worry that I walk around the house crying all day long.
She seemed satisfied with that.
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She then continued to ask if I managed to register with a family doctor. I told her yes and she seemed a bit annoyed that I didn't register with the one she mentioned....Yeah, like I will go to a doctor that CPS advised to go to.
She continued:
"I get the impression that you give your daughter too much freedom." (She was talking about the 16 year old) Yeah, just imagine that kids would have some freedom....Jeez.
I asked her why she would think that.
Two reasons: I let her go to a school outing instead of the school counselor. And I let her go with her boyfriend and his mom when she was supposed to meet her at school.
Well, first of all: The school principal told me in the beginning that the counselor was a voluntary thing.
My daughter doesn't want to go there. But somehow they made her anyway. So for them to exclude her from a school outing just to see the school counselor for half an hour seemed like a crazy thing to do. That's why I told her she could go to the outing. And also because I didn't even know she was meeting the counselor that morning.
I told her that as far as I know, they need my permission for stuff like that and since no one even told me, they can hardly hold it against me.
And why I let her go with her boyfriend and his mom? Simple: she wasn't there yet and the school was closing. And there's just no way I will let my child wait around at school when everyone else has left...
She had no answer to that. She knew I got her there, since they're always talking about safety and in this case, leaving my daughter waiting outside her school for I don't know how long, is not really safe now is it?
Not that we live in a criminal town, but it's also school policy since they are responsible for their students.
Check.
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Psychopath...
I asked her what was going to happen now, was the file being closed or what?
She thought for a moment and then said: "What I would be worried about is that if we close the file, and something was up, that you would be too stubborn to call us and ask for help."
Did she just really say that? I'd be too stubborn? Hell yeah, I'd be too stubborn. In fact, **ALL of my kids share the same trait with me. They all got that from me and I'm proud that they all have my stubborness. To me it means that they're no pushovers and that they're too stubborn to just give up but instead keep trying. I love my stubborn children and I love my own stubborness. I come from a long line of stubborn people and guess what? We've survived schools, indoctrination, TV, news etc....and what's more: we are too stubborn to just trust anyone and believe all the lies we were told. If that's a bad thing you can call me Mo.
And when in the history of Irish CPS do they ever help? When did they EVER help us?
With the exception of two trips to my mechanic with the care worker when my car was there for repair...Other than that, I've seen only crap from them, no help.
But of course, I didn't tell her all of the above. I'd be crazy to anger the CPS gods.
So with my sweetest voice I told her: "I have a few friends and neighbours I can always count on, but if I ever think I need more help, I will definitely call you."
It was time for me to go. I had been in there for more than 1.5 hour and I needed to collect my daughter. She didn't really seem to care and kept on talking. WOW!
She mentioned the homeschool assessor and announced that 'of course they talk to each other'. Yah, DUH...
But what she said then shocked me and at the same time came as no surprise.
The assessor had told her that he was worried that I could cope with 'everything I had going on'.
So there it was. They are definitely playing games in order to try to force me to send the kids to school.
And what the hell did he mean by: "everything I had going on"?
I have the same things going on as I have had for the last couple of years. I take care of the children. I homeschool them. We have animals and grow our own food. I work freelance. Nothing's changed over the years, but now they're worried about it? Oh wait, there's one thing: Now I have CPS hovering around. Yeah, *that's changed. Maybe he meant that when he said: "everything I had going on". She then asked me: "What are your reasons actually for homeschooling?" Well, first off: Because I don't want my children to turn into mindless dumb dumbs like yourself.
Of course, I didn't say that (but I'm sure she could read it off my face). I just started explaining myself (even though it's none of their fucking business) when she cut me off abruptly "Well, you better go, you wouldn't want your daughter to wait too long. I will call you next week."
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I was 15 minutes late for my daughter and still not a word on what is going to happen now.
Speaking of 1.5 hours wasted...
I hope she will call me with good news. Because at this stage, I would like to know what the hell they want more from me. I've jumped through all the hoops, never missed an appointment with them (not that I could, since they never call in advance), I am getting the feeling that they're messing me around.
I wonder how they tell their work stories to their friends and family.
Probably laughing about how they upset someone again this time....
To be continued....Fingers crossed soon....
Thank you for reading.
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My blood is boiling after reading your post!
I am in the States and it is an epidemic of mass proportions. The courts prey upon women and children, they are abused by the system. It is disgusting.
I have some horror stories myself, if I never have experienced it, I would never have believed that things like this even existed. Some of my family saw what I had to go through and they where equally dismayed, confused and beyond aggravated.
I hope that everything works in your favor, but if anything positive comes from this is, you will be able to help others if they experience this abuse of power and authority that they say in the name of protecting children, what a crock of crap its all about receiving money for their stupid jobs, they are evil people to work for such government agencies.
Good luck, I will try to keep updated on your posts, although I am not on here as much as I would like to.
Hi @izabellablue (great name!) thank you for your feedback. Yes, they have my blood boiling now too, I am surprised myself that I didn't burst yet. If it were anyone else treating us this way, I would have responded in a different way I think. But they hold the power and they know it. I know what you're saying, I wouldn't have believed it either. The first time I saw the way they worked was when a friend and her family got involved with them. I was only a teen and seen all their crap up close. They destroyed that family's life and worse...However, I had put that away in a deep part of my mind for a long time. When I had my eldest, I jumped through all the hoops, she had her vaccinations, her check ups everything. I was never bothered by them then. Only when I had my third child (unassisted birth and unvaccinated) was when they first came into our lives. And here in Ireland? It seems like they almost wait around the corner and search for single parents to bother. And yes, I agree, they should get a different job. The case worker we have even told my eldest that she trained to become a hair dresser and only started working there for the money. That should tell you enough. They don't care, their work hours are from 9 to 4 and after that they don't give a damn about the people they are messing with. I am sorry you also have horror stories. It is an epidemic and should never be allowed to happen. Thank you for your kind words.
That so sad.. knowing how people manipulate and get you upset for no reason.. intruding oneself for their sake, trying and pretending to help when their not really helping in reality.. keep safe and God bless (you and your family)
Thank you for your kind words. Yes, I am pretty sure they do a lot of things just to keep themselves in a job.
I am a little confused by the term CPS, but is it the same as my country is a child protection community. which is an institution established by the government, is it like a CPS?
Yes, CPS means child protection services. They are called differently in different countries, even here, but it means the same.
Thanks for the information @misslasvegas , I need to know more while in steemit. Nice to meet you
Uh! So annoying that they keep dragging it on and on! Then cutting you off while you're explaining why you homeschool. So nuts. I sure hope they leave you alone soon. Absolutely insane that the school person said he was worried about all you have going on. Yep, when CPS gets in your face, it adds a whole new dimension and it does occupy your thoughts and time! Then add your regular stuff on top of that and you're close to having too many things to juggle. Crazy town. Thanks for sharing your story. I hope next week you get the call that the case is closed.
Thank you! Yes, that would be awesome.
Without a doubt I recognize the ability you have to control your emotions, especially the dislike, the social worker is considerably rude
Yes she is. :(
It sounds to me like they are trying to find ways to keep your case open, you handled all the above very well. Hats off to you for keeping your calm. From my research the local authorities need there case numbers up in order to get funding, it sounds like maybe that's why they are hassling you, which is totally unacceptable. You have done everything right. I hope the cop on and leave you and your family alone, and stop fishing for problems that don't exist.
I guess funding would be a reason. I'd say that the case workers are also protecting their jobs. It's almost like the street workers here in Ireland that take days for a job others could do in a shorter period of time. But they take that long in order to keep their jobs...If the government would find out they could do the job in half the time, then some of them could lose their job. I think it happens in most government jobs. They're not there because they like it, but because it pays well and if they're any good, they have a job for life....And keeping calm...yeah, inside I was boiling. I think she noticed it in my face (she kept interrupting me and finish my sentences for me..) and that's when she told me I'd better leave...LOL.
these agencies are all the same. they play games and say things to get you upset. Than when you get upset and stand up for yourself they go to the judge and say you are unstable. It is very hard but best thing is to ignore all the verbal attacks they do towards you. It is meant to take your children away.
Yes, they're very good at playing games. That's why I believe they have more issues than most families they work with. I keep reminding myself to keep calm, and I tell myself that they are only doing this to catch me out. But they will not succeed.
they are trained to look for your weakness. And they will use that and each time they see you they will dig more until you have finally had enough. Learn to recognize when they are going to stat making these jabs at you and take a deep breath and think of something else. they will keep trying and when they realize their efforts are not getting the response they want they will try something else. And eventually they will realize that you are not playing their game and they will stop. They know that if they can get to your emotions you will loose your cool. that is their goal. If you loose your cool YOU LOOSE!!!!!!!!!!!! You need to stay strong and see past it for what it really is.
Yes, I won't lose my cool, whatever they do. The funny thing is, when I get angry the way they get me, I usually smile to distract from the real emotions that are running through me. I noticed that that really throws them off. My mother always told me to smile at people and the bigger a-holes they are, the bigger the smile. They usually don't know what to do with themselves...
Well done for getting through that. I can't imagine how you stayed calm in the face of such stupidity. It sounds, from an innocent, never had this sort of trouble myself, point of view, quite positive. You have to think and believe its going to be ok. You're communicating with them. You registered with a doctor. You came to the appointment. So horrible to not know whats next though. I'm sorry. But you sound calm and that to me seems positive.
Haha, yes, I have to work hard to stay calm. I just keep telling myself that this won't last and inside I make jokes about them to get me through. If anything, I feel sorry for them that they have no means to escape the slave-drivers they work for.
I have had more than my fair share of dealing with these people, which I think you already know if you have read any of my posts. Even to the extent where I had family members kidnap one of my children and the police or DCF wouldn't help me because the person called in a false report of abuse after the kidnapping. It is sad becasue there are really hundreds of thousands of children being mentally or physically abused everyday by someone that is suppose to be caring for them. Then there are people like us who love our children more than anything but are being harassed by a shit system. I feel for you 💖💖💖
Yes, I have read a few of your stories. (have to dig into them again) I think the one good thing that comes out of this is that there are now a whole group of people who are all fighting the same fight and I feel honoured to be part of that. The more we tell our stories, the better others will be helped and informed. Thank you for your feedback, it is always appreciated. ❤️️