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Yeah, you pretty much verbalized my problem with the movement. And I consider myself a libertarian myself. Sorta. Kinda. Not sure anymore, really. But that's offtopic. I'm going to make a post about it, so follow me if you want to discuss it further in the near future.

(How smooth.)

There's a fine line between smooth and slippery 8-).

I think there's a slope between them. No one ever talks about the smooth slope, only the sliperry one.

I follow white rabbits so sure I'll follow you. Thanks for chiming in.

That's not the essence of libertarianism. That's the essence of keyboard warrior loser.

Hey, man. I’ve been meaning to sort of debate you on libertarianism for some time now. But I don’t want to take this post any further offtopic.

And I don’t mean debate in a hostile way. You know I like and respect you.

I just think there are certain nuances that mainstream libertarians aren’t getting.

And, like I said, I still uphold the principles myself.

I’ll make a post one day soon, look for it.

I'd love to man. I think I probably agree with many of your criticisms of "mainstream libertarianism." The respect is mutual. I'll keep my eyes out.

I'll look forward to it!

Thank you for making my point.