Important Changes to Steemit.com and Wallet
Today we released new software to power steemit.com. Steemit.com now only has social features, and the web wallet (where you view your token balances, initiate transfers, power up, etc.) is powered by a separate application located at steemitwallet.com. Since steemit.com no longer includes any of the token-related features of Steem, this application (what you know as steemit.com) only requires the use of one’s Posting Key.
Important
That means that you will ONLY be able to use your Posting Key when you try to sign in to steemit.com. This will increase your safety when using the site. It also means that when you navigate to your wallet through steemit.com you will be redirected to steemitwallet.com which is our new standalone wallet application.
To learn more about your Master Password and private keys, check out our Steem Basics post here or watch the following video:
An added benefit of this change is that because it’s a smaller application than the full Condenser, it will consume fewer resources on both our machines, and yours.
Key Backup PDF
Now that we have split Condenser into two separate applications (Social and Wallet), we are requiring that users sign in with the proper keys, which will improve user security. Those users who are inputting their Master Password for everything will now get a warning that informs them when they are attempting to sign in with the incorrect key or password, and gently guides them toward either getting the weakest key (the posting key) or downloading a PDF backup of all their keys.
The Mission
Our goal at Steemit is to support amazing online communities with unparalleled cryptocurrency incentives. To that end, we envision a community-centric web application that is open source and economically sustainable. Splitting Condenser into separate Social and Wallet applications will constitute a major step toward accomplishing this goal by enabling us to improve each application faster, while consuming fewer resources, and maximizing user security by enhancing the client-side signing experience.
The Steemit Team
P.S. If you encounter bugs or unpleasant UI, please leave your feedback in the comments section below.
Hopefully, you realize you just locked a lot of people out of their wallets who will have no idea and no help from the UI to figure out which keys to use and whether or not they have the correct keys logged somewhere.
The first to be impacted will be stakeholders and investors who rely on wallet transactions to run their businesses.
It's an inconvenience to most of us. For some it will be overwhelming.
The way the change was implemented on the social side makes it easy to download a PDF containing all your private keys with a description of what each one does. It was implemented directly on the social site so that users which have their master password saved in the browser don't have to dig in their browser/OS settings to retrieve it. It's difficult to get users to adopt safe practices around key handling; the goal is that the downloadable PDF provides a safe way to backup all the keys and make it more straightforward to use the lowest-security key on the social site as well as the wallet. There are big tradeoffs between security and convenience and we are open to feedback on any ways to bridge the gap. Thank you for your feedback.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usability_testing
Doesn't everyone need their master password? I was told that we could be in serious trouble if we lose that.
!dramatoken
Well .. at least there's a recurring pop-up with a link ... ;)
I agree this comes all of a sudden. Could have been to national communicated before.
I couldn't have put this better myself. I definitely feel like I'm playing catch up at the best of times and I couldn't have picked a better word than 'overwhelming'.
I hope this becomes easier to comprehend as time passes, and for the amount of money I have on this site (and the amount I earn) I look at all of these passwords I have to remember and think "Is it really worth it...?"
This includes me. Where do I go to to find the PDF with my passwords on?
Yes I second that not only overwhelming if there is 1 typo anywhere we could lose our tokens or crypto's. I think it is dicey for newer steemian.
It is overwhelming for me. I've been trying to manually enter it and get invalid password every time. It's exhausting. So i'm not good at this. That's true. what to do? I'm reading all these comments and just lost.
I agree. Even the sticky they have at the side doesn't mention the wallet, just says the social condenser is live. I discovered it on accident clicking on their blog to look at the older announcement on wallets after clicking on mine to collect rewards and having to log in again, then being locked out of Steemit and having to log in again to get back on the site. They might want to change the title to this post to indicate it addresses the wallet and we will be needing to log in several times now due to different sites.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@therealwolf/steemit-wallet-passwords-and-private-keys
Dear @whatsup
A gree with you,
I can only hope that they will realize that they just delivered heavy blow to their own platform and thousands of users will be affected. This will cause chaos on this platform :/
It really bloody is. Steem wallet lost most of it's functionality in my opinion. Even refreshing is logging me out :/
Yours, Piotr
as long as they do not forget their password then they are ok.
Ya what you said . Is this a scam or ,what maybe we should quit while we're ahead.
Am so lost right now
Definitely a good point thank you
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I just lost my 3 years work!!!
Here's your
DRAMA. Don't spend it all in one place!To view or trade
DRAMAgo to steem-engine.com.Some are apparently seeing ads, I don't, because I use Brave Browser.
So for users: go download Brave Browser.
For Steemit, Inc: get yourself verified as a Brave publisher :-)
Please all who check out the Brave Browser remember that it so far is a fairly centralized situation with requiring the user to sign up to only one choice of exchange. I wish more people would be vocal about this. Can be a huge thing for cryptocurrency if they would decentralize what they are doing.
Or use steempeak.
Good thinking!
Lot of us have been sending tip to steemit but so far they are not setup (AFIK) to receive Brave payments. Perhaps steemspeak can take advantage of Brave + BAT.
Thanks for the heads up @soyarosa, I use ad blocker so don't see anything. I'm just gutted that the whole reason Steemit was set up in the first place has been thrown away.
I wonder if they've had the goddamned common decency to at least take out the bit in the Whitepaper where it says Steemit will not be like the others and won't exploit you by making ad revenue on your content.
Cg
I use ublock on chrome. It works pretty well for youtube.
uBlock does a good job (on my Firefox) also. :)
I had it activated before but deactivated it for it blocked some content at @steemillu.
I will probably retrieve my rewards via actifit.io from now on.
My laptop is just 4gb ram. Twice I've installed brave browser, and it made my laptop very slow so I had to uninstall both times.
I'm using latest version of FireFox (66.0.2) and I see no ads.
Yep, gr8 call Rosa. I hold BAT as I'm pretty confident that they're a crypto project that has a very strong future application. I can see them possibly becoming a competitor or even replacing Google, long term. They solve a real issue with the way they tokenize advertising attention.
Brave and steem should 100% work in tandem. I'm not sure if it is possible for content creators to opt in to advertising to earn BAT yet, this is something I need to look into. I am using brave browser though, and have been for a few months now 🙂
While I enjoy Brave myself, promoting it in this topic is rather misplaced. It's like asking Coca-Cola employees to drink Mountain Dew
excellent idea for all, I also use it and it's great
Arent ads supposed to help steemit?
I also use Brave...and I love it!
I am using it as well. I was just reading posts about adds and was wondering why I don't see them. Now I remembered that I'm using Brave for a few months.
yup - I am seeing some ads
agree, i also use brave browser, and there is no ads, unless if you want them
Hm
Yup! I use BRAVE BROWSER also!
good point!
I have had brave for many years on iphone ... but it is not really compelling to me
Yup ads are everywhere
Steemit just died
or use firefox, safari or chrome with ghostery and abp plugins which are free abd been around for over 10 years!
Okay, @soyrosa. I opted to the Brave browser just now because I do like using Steemit for a lot of things, but having ads everywhere was getting to me quick. :)
Same here. Brave browser is a must to resolve ads issues <3
I hope people don't take your advice because, while I think Brave is very cool, you can't use steemvoter in combination with it. And I try to encourage people to use steemvoter because its the coolest thing for Steem since delegations.
There is a lot of effort.
However, this operation seems to have a major problem with the encryption key.
Is my account hacked?
There seems to be a problem with the system.
This is a very important story.
Only issue I've had thus far is that any time I login to wallet using my active key, it logs me off any time I hit refresh... have to keep logging back in unless using owner key.
This should have been done the other way around. Steemit.com has everyone's trust, the new domain hasn't and creates a massive phishing loophole right now. You guys should have put the wallet only site on steemit.com moving the social site to social.steemit.com.
It's cool that security is starting to get taken more seriously, but messing with established trust pathways, opening up massive phishing pathways truly isn't the way to go.
Please reconsider this move before bad shit happens to people's money.
There are security concerns with a shared domain, however we will be working to make the experience more streamlined.
not Blindly but Highly appreciated your decision as being an owner & CEO of Dapp I can understand that managing all the things would not be easy sometimes.
Loving that atleast steemit is not being afraid from making decisions I see many people doesn't like this decision but then too you people have believe on what you do 😊, I hope or maybe I can say definitely their might be some good intentions behind this :) .
Wishing you people all the luck😊
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Please remove the wallet option from profile. I cant stop clicking the option 🙄.
Hi all. I just like to point out some constructive comments about this recent update about Steemit.
I will agree. there should have been better form of information and notification of the changes. I understand there is a blog on this. however many of us are also just casual users of steemit, just post sometimes here, we may or may not spend much time on the platform as it is. therefore spending time to looking for the posts that mention of important updates. There should be direct replies or emails to everyones accounts regarding the change
the new update. I understand there may be bugs, and bug happen in transition times. However right now the changes are a negative. many people had steemit as auto login from chrome and may have forgotten their keys. so now many are locked out of their accounts and funds. not good
also to transition back from steemit to wallet, it is much harder now, more complicated.
so perhaps i put this forth and maybe further updates can be made on this
again these are meant to be constructive comments and not to be taking as direct complaints. thanks for your support
I thought this was a PHISH earlier. Had me asking around.Can't you use KEYCHAIN for this? Why does this feel so dirty?
If they are going to treat us like this, at least they should integrate keychain to both Steemit and Steemitwallet so we automatically use key with the lowest authority
Yeah man, um, I just found out that now that they have us using a fucking posting key for a wallet site, no one can get into their internal market... wow, just retarded...
Im glad I have vessel, the new wallet page doenst even work or send money, wow good job @ned again you showed your front end people seem to not even use steemit ... how can i go into my permission page now when its using a posting key, how can people even get their active key/ LOL this is a MESS
Yeah man, um, I just found out that now that they have us using a fucking posting key for a wallet site, no one can get into their internal market... wow, just retarded...
Im glad I have vessel, the new wallet page doenst even work or send money, wow good job @ned again you showed your front end people seem to not even use steemit ... how can i go into my permission page now when its using a posting key, how can people even get their active key/ LOL this is a MESS
I ride around with a dumb bitch (Steemit) Only cuz im stupid rich 9In steem-engine tokens
What the fuck is wrong with you @ned You just locked out Most of your own users from using the steemit wallet. Who the fuck is in charge if this update? Fire them immediately. Ned you have to hire from within if your incapable of finding anyone who even knows how steemit works. Youre just fucked up steemit in a CENTRALIZED way because you demand to keep stemit this nasty central front end so when it stops working, steem crypto currency ESSENTIAL stops working because most whales use steemut.com, you YOU ned REFUSE to do the work to actually fucking PROMOTE OFFICIALLY wallets like VESSEL which YOU SHOULD have made the OFFICIAL steem desktop wallet a LONG time ago YEARS ago but you are doing WHAT? WHO KNOWS
What the fuck is wrong with you @ned why are you so complacent? Dont you wonder why every other altcoin is up 20-30% and Steem started goinG DOWN today?
I just avoid the hassle, and use SteemPeak :D
The wallet site doesn't even have the same css so it was really confusing at least
I thought so too! (that's how I ended up here)
Ya it felt like Phishing I had to do a double take
Fo real. I'm switching to Busy.org