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RE: The value of Steem and its users: 1 Steem user = 10 Facebook users!
You are over evaluating the number of active users per month. Maximum was reached on 2017-07-18 and is 22k (22445 to be precise).
You can check on my daily stats to have a clear view on the evolution of active users.
That said, having fewer active users only reinforces what you mention about the value of Steemit.
Nice work knircky and arcange, i follow you both, awasome informations. Steemit fundamentals are very strong with a positive loop economy effect.
No doubt adoption will continu to grow at high rate.
I just start to steemit.com and I become addicted :)
I came here every day to see what new and add some comments to the post that I like.
I am 1 of 22k :) that work to make steem it bigger and better.
Cheers for the daily stats @arcange. Highly undervalued content and worth the follow!
Thanks you =)
what about think steemit is really pay out ! what about to say
So are you saying all this https://steemit.com/steemit/@penguinpablo/steem-stats-active-users is wrong? He has the daily users at 20k, weekly at 50 and monthly at 100k. Also 20k monthly seems low given that we have 100k unique visitors a day according to hypestat. And would be less than 10% active users. Can u please explain?
Obviously if u are right the numbers would change quite a bit!
Here a special preview for you of the monthly values, where "active" means made at least one post, comment or upvote. I will add it to my next daily stats.
That looks more in line with the data from @penguinpablo but still not 100k.
Strange... My figures are a lot higher. I count 23,906 distinct users on 2017-07-18. May: 33,655 and June: 89,950.
I also count the accounts that made a transfer, power up/down or downvote, but I don't think that will make such a big difference.
I will count only the active curators tomorrow to see if I have about the same figures as you have.
i think it is correct to include any activity into the active starts.
Thank you for checking in. It is always good to verify data. It seems clear that the 20k monthly users however cannot be correct so i think overall my analysis should generally hold.
But 60k active users vs 100k is a bit of a strange difference if i read arcanes chart correctly?
Definitely curious to hear what the consensus is on the N* of daily active users after these comments.
For the last 30 days (June 20 - July 20)
All active accounts (including account_create): 105,889
Active accounts (excluding account_create): 80,141
Active curators only: 68,614
Active authors only: 53,510
Active curators and authors: 75,436
What does "including vs. excluding account_create" mean? Is the simple creation of an account already considered being an "activity" though?
Yes, that's right. The creation of an account is the first transaction of that account. But it's better to exclude it, because the user hasn't really done anything.
Yeah, I fully agree :)
Great job on putting all this information together! If I wasn't following you already, I'd do it now :))
To calculate the "active" accounts, I have included any transaction that has been made by an account. This can be a post, upvote, downvote, transfer, sbd conversion, power up, power down or even the creation of the steem account itself.
Here are my calculations for the month of June:
Total active accounts: 89,950
Active curators only: 52,750
Active authors only: 42,124
Active curators and authors: 58,904
Good to see we have almost the same numbers :) The difference is, how to define an "active" account. I have included the creation of an account even if the account won't be used thereafter. If I exclude the 'account creation' I count only 62,532 active users in June. To my surprise. It seems a lot of people sign up without using their account thereafter. I did not expect that. I will exclude those accounts in my calculations from now on.
@penduinpablo, we could talk endlessly on the definition of "active user" ;)
I consider authoring (posts and comments) and curation (up/down votes) as the main activity with added value for the platform, hence my definition of "active" restricted to that.
not withstanding possible slight differences between the numbers, I think you still make your point very well. It's also right in line with how I concluded my post "Managing Expectations when trading SBD for STEEM" (also added your link over there as well).
Furthermore, this "dynamic" was also part of my incentive to release my latest script for STEEMIT users: "Post Vote Slider and Past Payout Monetizer... and next, here comes SteemTUBE...!
And in case I didn't quite make it clear, terrific article! :)
Nice to see Steemians linking to related articles offering tons of value, definitely helped me a lot and you have yourself a new follower. @alexpmorris
@knircky
glad you found them so useful @blockchainttmft, upvoted a few of your articles as well and followed. I even "Past Payout Monetized" one of your recently expired resteems as well! lol
Thank you. I had not seen these post I am following you now!
thanks @knircky, can't add anything to that though, was already following you too! :)
Daily active users looks correct, even if we might argue on the definition of "active user".
For the other values, it is something I need to check.
Interesting. My analysis 4 days ago showed 35,656 accounts have made at least 1 post this month. You know steemit way better than me @arcange, maybe you could have a look at my post and see if we can find the difference, the post is Steemit Retention Problem Database analysis
@paulag, my first guess is that you counted post created by newly registered accounts on a specific month where I count regardless of the account creation date.
But , I would need to see the query you used to accurately find why the difference.
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