By hoax I mean someone fraudulently making such claims much like the Hitler Diaries that came out.
Though it also could be legit. Simply look at it with a grain of salt.
EDIT: If the quoted sections in that link are accurate then I'd call it a hoax simply due to:
The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.3
Simply because the word Nazi is a contraction of National Socialist German Workers Party. That term did not exist during the lifetime of Pike.
Yet that quote may be someone paraphrasing and offering their own interpretation.
Yet an earlier quote on the same page refers to Communism. I had to look and it IS possible Pike would have known that term, though it was referred to by other means for awhile. It is slightly possible he may have encountered the term after it was in use. Since your shared quote says 1871 it is still possible, but that had me thinking for a moment.
Nazi on the other hand there is no explanation for that... unless like I said someone is writing their own interpretations other than his actual quote.
When I was originally reading your post it popped that Pike quote into my mind so I felt I had to share it with you. I am so glad you took it and dug in.
Most people see the Luciferian portion in that letter and it shuts down all of their ability to critically think about the material in it. I think that most of the material you see presented from prominent people in Freemasonry as history requires extreme scrutiny. ALL HISTORY is a lie agreed upon, written by the victorious of the time. I always ask myself, If there was a plan for all this in 1871, and it was easily accessible to the general public, how would it be possible for the plan to still stand and be put into action some 70-150 years later? Did Albert Pike even exist as we are told he did or is this a persona being built up to serve a different purpose? If I am not mistaken he is the only southern general to have a monument in Washington DC, Why him?
The earlier quote that includes Nazi's brings into question all of the quotes from him in my opinion. I think this shows that quotes and words or even books and authors may not be what we are handed. EG: George Orwell was very likely a pen name or was possibly the person who brought the writing of Eric Blaire to publish. Very hard to say as none of us were there to witness. We are presented these people and items to point at and identify and most people stop once they are able to say I know who said that, and never take the next step to actually look at the person that is presented and not the material.
The Pike quote does mention the big 3 Monotheist religions in it which is interesting. I think this quote relates directly to the leftist and how division of populations is their modus operandi. The concept of fighting against individuals in smaller segments of a population vs trying to fight off the ideas of individuals who have formed a stronger and larger community. Either way the tactic of the authoritarians will always be to sow division for the purpose of creating a problem that doesn't exist. They truly want to be the ones on top of a fully collectivized population and there is no better way to march toward that then to provide solutions to the problems that they have created. Islam being thrust into the western world right now is the latest problem being employed to this end. Until humanity is ready to stop with this collective non sense and acknowledge the smallest minority (the individual) we will see this cycle repeat and move forward centralizing every aspect of every persons life.
PS: I am going to dig in deeper to Albert Pike again. It has been a while since I really looked at the time line and story we are presented about him. Gonna grab the Morals and Dogma off the book shelf and give it a re-read.
Look, as many people have said already, it is easy to bring the people to war. All one needs to be willing to do is murder X number of people. Bam! You can get people to go to war. It isn't hard. I would guess most wars were planned to happen. That's no surprise. This is one of many reasons to remove the system as we know it today. Without that system, individuals cannot be so easily brought to war.
Couldn't agree more! One more step I would add is that one identifiable population always has to be de-humanized so that the effort and energy can become hate and discord and directed accordingly.
Yeah, the "Those people don't matter" mentality disgusts me. They're not me. What's happening to them must be deserved. It isn't my home being bombed. Those are not my loved ones being blown to bits. Therefore, I don't care...
Someone in another thread yesterday said the world is relatively peaceful, and they didn't understand why so many people were complaining. Peaceful?! They must be living under a rock, or perhaps they spend their day playing video games on the couch.
So I am now reading up some more on Albert Pike. I also now remember hearing about him in reference to the KKK. So I guess I knew of him in terms of Freemasonry, and the KKK.
I don't spend a lot of time thinking about the KKK. I don't view people by race. While I know there are people that do, I believe they are currently much smaller and number than people would think. Though the media is intentionally fanning the flames of racism and trying to expand racism of all kinds as far as I can tell, so I do think racism is growing. Yet it is not against only one particular color. It is against white people, black people, hispanic people, jewish(not necessarily a race... the race would be Hebrew if I was speaking race) people, etc.
Yet my current readings on Albert Pike did lead me to some interesting things.
Palladism was one of those and I thought it interesting that Pythagoras was alleged to have brought that out of Egypt. I thought that interesting as another thing Pythagoras did is form one of the earliest known Communist city states. It didn't survive long after his death. I see Social Marxism, Neo-Marxism, etc as a big part of the problems with the world at the moment and find it interesting how it keeps finding tendrils back to things that fuel the concept of Communism.
Which isn't surprising considering Communism is greatly about slaying individuality and viewing everything as a monolithic group. The great equalizer though equality of outcome is impossible and anti-reality. The ultimate monopoly. The ultimate in involuntarism.... i.e. evil. Evil that is embraced as people are yanked around by their emotions and made to think it is compassionate when it is the opposite of that.
I'll continue reading on Pike. Yet that thought is what it inspired so far.
I also just found that whether the letter that comes from actually existed or not is a matter of contention.
It may have. Yet it may also be a hoax.
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
By hoax I mean someone fraudulently making such claims much like the Hitler Diaries that came out.
Though it also could be legit. Simply look at it with a grain of salt.
EDIT: If the quoted sections in that link are accurate then I'd call it a hoax simply due to:
Simply because the word Nazi is a contraction of National Socialist German Workers Party. That term did not exist during the lifetime of Pike.
Yet that quote may be someone paraphrasing and offering their own interpretation.
Yet an earlier quote on the same page refers to Communism. I had to look and it IS possible Pike would have known that term, though it was referred to by other means for awhile. It is slightly possible he may have encountered the term after it was in use. Since your shared quote says 1871 it is still possible, but that had me thinking for a moment.
Nazi on the other hand there is no explanation for that... unless like I said someone is writing their own interpretations other than his actual quote.
Thanks so much for 3 GREAT replies!!
When I was originally reading your post it popped that Pike quote into my mind so I felt I had to share it with you. I am so glad you took it and dug in.
Most people see the Luciferian portion in that letter and it shuts down all of their ability to critically think about the material in it. I think that most of the material you see presented from prominent people in Freemasonry as history requires extreme scrutiny. ALL HISTORY is a lie agreed upon, written by the victorious of the time. I always ask myself, If there was a plan for all this in 1871, and it was easily accessible to the general public, how would it be possible for the plan to still stand and be put into action some 70-150 years later? Did Albert Pike even exist as we are told he did or is this a persona being built up to serve a different purpose? If I am not mistaken he is the only southern general to have a monument in Washington DC, Why him?
The earlier quote that includes Nazi's brings into question all of the quotes from him in my opinion. I think this shows that quotes and words or even books and authors may not be what we are handed. EG: George Orwell was very likely a pen name or was possibly the person who brought the writing of Eric Blaire to publish. Very hard to say as none of us were there to witness. We are presented these people and items to point at and identify and most people stop once they are able to say I know who said that, and never take the next step to actually look at the person that is presented and not the material.
The Pike quote does mention the big 3 Monotheist religions in it which is interesting. I think this quote relates directly to the leftist and how division of populations is their modus operandi. The concept of fighting against individuals in smaller segments of a population vs trying to fight off the ideas of individuals who have formed a stronger and larger community. Either way the tactic of the authoritarians will always be to sow division for the purpose of creating a problem that doesn't exist. They truly want to be the ones on top of a fully collectivized population and there is no better way to march toward that then to provide solutions to the problems that they have created. Islam being thrust into the western world right now is the latest problem being employed to this end. Until humanity is ready to stop with this collective non sense and acknowledge the smallest minority (the individual) we will see this cycle repeat and move forward centralizing every aspect of every persons life.
PS: I am going to dig in deeper to Albert Pike again. It has been a while since I really looked at the time line and story we are presented about him. Gonna grab the Morals and Dogma off the book shelf and give it a re-read.
Interesting quote. I've of course heard of Albert Pike, but I have never seen that particular quote.
I do see some value in the quote, though personally I am not someone who believes in Lucifer.
I do believe in Good and Evil. To me they essentially boil down to voluntaryism and involuntaryism.
With that said. It doesn't matter if I believe in Lucifer or not if there are those that take action that do.
I also see it as a particular waste of time to try to cast things into a body of some supernatural Lucifer that I can't personally do a lot about.
I focus on what I can do.
Though I will say the quote has some important things to consider that can be considered without focusing on the religious parts of it.
Though I do know the World War III bit was an addition since he lived and died before any of the World Wars.
You did stoke my curiosity though and I'll have to look into Pike with more depth than I have before. I just knew of him in terms of Free Masonry.
Look, as many people have said already, it is easy to bring the people to war. All one needs to be willing to do is murder X number of people. Bam! You can get people to go to war. It isn't hard. I would guess most wars were planned to happen. That's no surprise. This is one of many reasons to remove the system as we know it today. Without that system, individuals cannot be so easily brought to war.
Couldn't agree more! One more step I would add is that one identifiable population always has to be de-humanized so that the effort and energy can become hate and discord and directed accordingly.
Yeah, the "Those people don't matter" mentality disgusts me. They're not me. What's happening to them must be deserved. It isn't my home being bombed. Those are not my loved ones being blown to bits. Therefore, I don't care...
Someone in another thread yesterday said the world is relatively peaceful, and they didn't understand why so many people were complaining. Peaceful?! They must be living under a rock, or perhaps they spend their day playing video games on the couch.
So I am now reading up some more on Albert Pike. I also now remember hearing about him in reference to the KKK. So I guess I knew of him in terms of Freemasonry, and the KKK.
I don't spend a lot of time thinking about the KKK. I don't view people by race. While I know there are people that do, I believe they are currently much smaller and number than people would think. Though the media is intentionally fanning the flames of racism and trying to expand racism of all kinds as far as I can tell, so I do think racism is growing. Yet it is not against only one particular color. It is against white people, black people, hispanic people, jewish(not necessarily a race... the race would be Hebrew if I was speaking race) people, etc.
Yet my current readings on Albert Pike did lead me to some interesting things.
Palladism was one of those and I thought it interesting that Pythagoras was alleged to have brought that out of Egypt. I thought that interesting as another thing Pythagoras did is form one of the earliest known Communist city states. It didn't survive long after his death. I see Social Marxism, Neo-Marxism, etc as a big part of the problems with the world at the moment and find it interesting how it keeps finding tendrils back to things that fuel the concept of Communism.
Which isn't surprising considering Communism is greatly about slaying individuality and viewing everything as a monolithic group. The great equalizer though equality of outcome is impossible and anti-reality. The ultimate monopoly. The ultimate in involuntarism.... i.e. evil. Evil that is embraced as people are yanked around by their emotions and made to think it is compassionate when it is the opposite of that.
I'll continue reading on Pike. Yet that thought is what it inspired so far.